Plan Commission
Village of Lombard
Meeting Minutes
Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson |
Commissioners: Martin Burke, |
Stephen Flint, Ronald Olbrysh, |
Ruth Sweetser, Rocco Melarkey |
and Sondra Zorn, Staff Liaison: William Heniff |
7:30 PM
Village Hall
Monday, March 18, 2002
Call to Order and Roll Call of Members
Chairperson Donald F. Ryan, Commissioner Stephen Flint, Commissioner |
Ronald Olbrysh, Commissioner Ruth Sweetser and Commissioner Martin Burke |
Present:
Committee Member Commissioner Daniel Broderick and Commissioner Sondra |
Zorn |
Absent:
The following staff members were present: William Heniff, AICP, Senior Planner; Lisa |
Warren, AICP Planner II; Margaret Gibbs, Planner I; Jennifer Backensto, Planner I/C.E. |
Technician; and Janet Petsche, legal counsel to the Plan Commission. |
Chairperson Ryan called the order of the agenda. |
Mr. Heniff read the Rules of Procedure as written in the Plan Commission By-Laws. |
Public Hearings
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Lisa Warren, Planner II presented the staff report. cu approval for a fm and gave the |
hours of operation in the parking area at 105. held previously downtown and will be |
combined. operated under an agreement made between village and operatar and |
approved by the BOT. They do all marketing and staff. |
the concept is appropriate to a central business districtl. PW and eng. no comments. |
building had comments relative to electrical re4quirements and BOCA code. stafaf finds |
that the cu will meet the standards of the zo. the market will meet all code requirements |
and will have limited hours of operation. She gave the reasons for having a french |
market and how it will effect the downtown. |
she described how the market will lbe set up with the gaskets, sleeves, and cleaned up |
as well as how the vendors are arranged. the zo allows for a farmers market as a cu. |
other areas were considered but this the most viable option. |
Parking will be provided by available in the downtown, 108 spaces, 21 n. park and on |
street parking in the downtown. due to the limitations of the hours of market there |
should not be a conflict with metra parking. this areas does not provide any parking for |
parkview pointe even though owned by the same developer. |
compatibility with downtown surrounding uses. staff recommends approval. LIsa |
mentioned the agreements and how they ere going to be called licsnee agrementbs. |
since we are not operating out of a parking lot we own, it will be renamed a ?????? |
She mentioned the site plan she provided and said she would available to answer any |
questions. |
No one in favor or against. |
RS - looking forward to seeing this. under #5no commercial sales after noon. will the |
12-1 time be for take down? Lisa yes they will start to close down and be out by 1. |
Would like to see both agreements to see what the differences and addiitons area. |
MB - #3 - is it standard for licensor to pay a 5,000 start up fee. LW - this is a new |
venture in dupage. the first two they didn't charge but with lombard they have started to |
ask a fee to defray labor cocsts. #2 the last sentenace referring to not allaowing a |
market ont he premises for 3 years. |
RS what are other changes? JP many others - its something that the village board ahs |
to review so they are preparing for them and provided for your information and not your |
approval. |
DR - the two other communities - Villa Park is that too close of proximatiely. LW they |
are two different days. one on saturday and one on sunday. |
RO - in favor of market but one comment. Still have reservations about location. might |
be able to see top of tents by train. the overall concept is good and will help more |
people to come downtown on a ssaturday morning. LW - it was the best avaialbe space |
and downtown there are so many parking agreements seven days a week with ocndos. |
RS - ZO - all vendors have been contacted and how many did that total. LW - called a |
number of people from chamber but the bensolidun goup contacted them and managed |
to get interest from 4 people. RS - in addition to those do you know how many others? |
LW - referred to her site plat and hope to have outside stalls aout 20-25 vendors that |
would be acceptable. RS - what about a ratio of parking to slots 20 vendor spaces. LW |
- when talking to other communities, they said they have had ample parking and no |
propblems with parking. RS - would it be useful to try to learn the amount of vendors, |
the amount of parking., etc. RS - in terms of parking, the staff report, the market should |
be adversely afafect the condos because they do not provide any parking spaces and |
she referred to the letter that was sumbitted. LW - a meeting held with the PP condos |
regarding the parking issue. almost everyone at the meeting were favorable to the |
market. a couple of people expressed parking concerns. RS - quoted the letter about |
hte current parking problems. LW those unites are 2 bedoroom and allowed 1-1/2 |
par4king spaces and the people have 3 cars. they were more concerened about their |
guests |
It was moved by Commissioner Olbrysh, seconded by Commissioner Sweetser, |
that this matter be recommended to the Corporate Authorities for approval |
subject to conditions. The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Ryan, Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser and Burke
5 -
Absent:
Zorn
1 -
Enactment No: Ordinance 5087 105 |
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Carol Nofsinger, petitioner, 555 E. St. cxharles rd. requesting a cu approval for an |
automobile repari with variations in the b4 district. background - has been operating |
since may of 1985, the previous owner an auto repair use, when purchased auto repair |
was permitedd. zo since redone to be a cu use. the cu is compatible with the zo and |
meets all stanards for cu, comptabile with cp which rcommends lindustrial cuse and willl |
bring site up to code with improvement to lot and site and image of st. charles corridor. |
it confomrs to the ad hoc commiettee report. please keep in mind that the villag e has |
been granted a landscape easement in accordance with the st. charles ad hoc report |
and trees have been planted. have delivered 25 copies of plat of ocnsolidation which |
was a conditions. she asked for approval. |
No one to speak for or against. |
Jenny gave staff report. she reiterated the requst and gave the history of the property |
with the zo. the zo requires that the parking lot be paved but they say you cannot see3 |
so they request a variation. she gave idrc comments. cp recommnds LI and ad hoc |
report had goals one of which was a unified image and sense of place to include |
landscape improvemnets, tec. staff believes the petitioner is looking to do that. the |
auot use is compitable with the surrounding businesses. the great western trials |
provides a buffer. staff feels a cu is appropriate at that location. they are consturcting an |
encluse for refuse and will have a board on board fence instead of a chain link. they will |
also have an acce4ssory strucute for storage. |
Landscaping - there will be adequate separation between structures. the zo requires |
landscaping the proposed landscape island will provide that. She mentioned the |
landscape easement granted to the village and will supplement this landscaping. Staffis |
supportive and they did provide #1. |
RO - favor thjese site improvements. staff - handicapped accessible space where it is |
located is cloest to service entrance is thtat acceptabole. JB - there is another door on |
the back there. |
RS - staff reportrt indicates the accessory strucutre for vehicles is that a rquirement or a |
necessity or is that something nice they want to do? BH - they have a number of pieces |
of equipment on gravel area. staff felt it would be better to have inside and intends to be |
an ancillary use. RS - its still acceptable to have cars outside? BH - yes. |
DR - what about trash enclose is that same board on board? JB - wanted to match the |
existing building and will match. |
It was moved by Commissioner Olbrysh, seconded by Commissioner Sweetser, |
that this matter be recommended to the Corporate Authorities for approval |
subject to conditions. The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Ryan, Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser and Burke
5 -
Absent:
Zorn
1 -
Enactment No: Ordinance 5100 555 E |
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Gibbs gave staff report. last december pc had a workshop to regulate valet parking. |
she gave the background of the text amendment. this is not under the purvuew of the |
pc. valet parking operations shall conply with section #? the parking requirmenets |
cannot be met then requisite relieft must be granted by BOT or PC. cu will be in |
business districts and will be a conditional use. Signs will be reviewed. the location of |
any signs used in conjuncation with valet parking shall be on plans. the intention is to |
direct motorists and contribute to safety. |
Overview of text amnedments. signsmust be located in designated loading zone in |
public right of way no more than 4 feet from curb. design assmbly must meet 30 x 36 |
and sign surface area not to exceed 5 sq. ft., and one sign limited to business andshall |
specifiy the rate. thse signs allowed in office and zoning businesses district. |
No one to speaka for or aginst. Commissioners: RS - should bthere be a fully executed |
agreement in place since there is nothing for qualifications of the valet driver such as a |
current valid drivers license4 must be included in agreement. MG - in code we do |
require a valid drivers license. JP mentioned in code section. RS - what about "if they |
under indictement" or have a record? JP - this ordinance doesn't regulate the operators |
that the businesses cocntract with. the burden is on the businesses and they will |
indenfimy the village against lawsuits so the village protected. RS - thinks there migyht |
be more scrunity made to the agreement. JP - discucssed with tom bayer and |
disscucces with staff that the regulation of the operaters woul dbe separate and leave |
village out. |
RO - on 153.239Dpage 3 of staff report "display valet parking signs name of valet |
parking operater....." will the sign say "valet parking" or just the name of the opeator. |
need to include "valet parking" and underneath it the operators' name. |
RS -- only one parking sign would we want to say one is there but mabe leave a little |
leeway. MG we considered that but these more specific we donsider that direcitonal |
and informational and consider in another category. |
It was moved by Commissioner Flint, seconded by Commissioner Burke, that this |
matter be recommended to the Corporate Authorities for approval subject to |
conditions. The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Ryan, Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser and Burke
5 -
Absent:
Zorn
1 -
Enactment No: Ordinance 5152 Zonin |
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James Samatas, 665 W. North AVeneu, attorney and one of the petitioners before you |
to request a spa to increse the height of a sign and area of sign . this is approrprtate |
because to facilitate their efforts to be more identifiable and marketable on north |
avenue. this request in compliance with a previosuly approved sign requirements for |
another hotel just down the block from us. staff pointed out and we are requesting |
additional signage that theoriginal signage was predicated on an office instead of a b4 |
standard. petitioner is in full accord with staff's reocmmendation and request approval. |
No one to sepak in favor or against. |
Staff report by lisa warren. She gave the request. the probjextt has approval for 3 signs |
and she gave the descritions of each. she gave the idrc comments which relates to |
monument signs already there were erected on top of utility easements and will be |
temporary and petitioner will not be provided should anyt work be done. not the sign |
talked about tonight but for the other sign. She gave the zoning history, an exception to |
the sign ordinance granted and another sign exception to allow 3 freestanding signs on |
north ave. she gave the descriptions of each. the petitioner has relif for all rquested |
signage except the size and hiehgtoof the proposed freestanding pole sign on north ave. |
compatilibity with cp and sign ordinance - Comp plan recommends commercial and |
office uses at this location. sign nordinace - she gave the allowable dimensions of the |
requested signage and mentioned the B4 vs. O sign regulations which are more lenient. |
She mentioned the comfort suites hotel which is a similar sign and allowed by code. |
staff is supportive of this request |
No one to speak in favor or against. |
RS - makes sense SF - concur |
It was moved by Commissioner Sweetser, seconded by Commissioner Flint, that |
this matter be approved with conditions. The motion carried by the following |
vote: |
Aye:
Ryan, Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser and Burke
5 -
Absent:
Zorn
1 -
Business Meeting
in favor of market. only oncern he sees is the ingress and egress into building and |
setup time may be a problem besides that he is in favor. Public Participation - John |
Hoodek, 123 W. St. Charles, Parkview Po9int. |
Bill Heniff referred to new development listing in packet. |
New Business - reminder that next Plan Commisison meeting monday, April 22, 2002 , |
one week prior to avoid conflict. |
Approval of Minutes
Public Participation
DuPage County Hearings
Chairperson's Report
The Chairperson Ryan deferred to the Senior Planner.
Planner's Report
Unfinished Business
There was no unfinished business.
New Business
Subdivision Reports
There were no subdivision reports.
Site Plan Approvals
There were no site plan approvals.
Workshops
There were no workshops.
Adjournment