Village of Lombard Legistar System

Eileen Fargo, 1135 E. Addison

Cecilia Putz, 1113 E. Wilson

Lillian Rymko, 1146 E. Addison

Ruth Boburka, 889 S. Addison

Steve Pribich, 1071 E. Wilson

Carol Pribich, 1071 E. Wilson

Felix Greco, 1065 E. Wilson

Doreen Natalino, 809 S. Addison

Diane Brogno, 1136 Cambria Lane So.

Gerald O'Leary, 1157 E. Addison

Mary Ryan, 1157 E. Addison

Lee Lavorini, 1161 E. Addison

Art Kostka, 1154 E. Addison

Joan Kostka, 1154 E. Addison

Donna Colandra, 1150 E. Addison

Rich Helman, 1138 Cambria Lane So.

Clinton Meininger, 1138 Cambria Lane So.

Bernadette Whalen, 1125 E. Wilson

Madalene Cannata, 1052 E. Wilson

Donna Anzilotti, 880 S. Addison

Michele Simler, 895 S. Addison

Linda Pietrini, 857 S. Addison

Bob Marchi, 859 S. Addison

Gina Conforti, 1134 E. Wilson

Angelika Langenfelder, 1043 E. Wilson

Allison Horton, 885 S. Addison

Carmen Cassells, 845 S. Addison

Linda Uhlir, 841 S. Addison

Tauha Shahab, 335 W. Central

Todd Lechtenberg, 121 N. Ahrens

Naeem Baig, 123 E. 20th

Beverly Thomas, 1125 E. Cambria So.

Waleed Abdelhafez, 1142 E. Addison

Ahmad Khan, 1051 E. Wilson

Shehla Khan, 1117 E. Wilson

Dawood Galaria, 1009 E. Wilson

Ausaf Farooqi, 4910 Forest Ave., Downers Grove

Aly El-Dars, 1125 Cambria So.

Angela Murphy, 1169 Cambria So.

Hatfield showed an aerial map of the area and stated that on September 12th Trustee

Soderstrom held a meeting with all of the key parties. Hatfield reviewed the memo

outlining the meeting. He went on to say that the Staff recommendation is to sign one

side, the side with the fire hydrants, No Parking at all times and sign the other side No

Parking, Friday's Noon-3 p.m. In the memo from Mr. Hulseberg, it is pointed out that

there are three areas in Lombard around churches that are signed similar. Also, the

Village does limit parking around a lot of the schools. Another issue was raised

regarding a queuing problem with parents dropping off and picking up kids on Jackson.

Staff contacted Villa Park and is working with them. It is creating a line of sight problem

so staff is looking at putting up No Parking, Standing or Stopping 70-80' west of

Addison.

Carmen Cassells

Ms. Cassells asked which side the No Parking all the time signage is going to be on.

Chairperson Sebby answered it will be on the fire hydrant side. Ms. Cassells then went

on to ask if there were no plans for other side. Chairperson Sebby corrected her, saying

that the staff recommendation is no parking on Fridays.

Doreen Natalino

Ms. Natalino explained that she is effected by Jackson Middle School and commented

that she likes the recommendation and thinks it is pretty fair, especially signing the fire

hydrant side.

Steve Pribich

Mr. Pribich pointed out that the mosque is in Villa Park and asked why they don't park

over there. Chairperson Sebby responded that he can not answer that.

Rich Helman

Mr. Helman asked for clarification on the recommendation. Chairperson Sebby

repeated to the audience in general, what the recommendation is and explained that

part of the logic behind the recommendation is that the streets in Cambria are 28' wide,

back of curb to back of curb. Fire trucks require 18' clearance for staging. As it is right

now, you only have 12' left and therefore can not set up fire trucks properly. We are

guaranteeing a 20' path for our fire trucks to set up.

Allison Horton

Ms. Horton stated that she is "for" what is stated in the recommendation. Her only

question is will there be stepped up Police patrols on Fridays or during times when

there's extra traffic. Chairperson Sebby answered that he would expect that they are on

patrol all the time. Chief Byrne explained that when the signs first go up, the Police

Department does give it extra attention until people are educated. Chairperson Sebby

clarified to the audience that if they are installed, it is no parking for everybody, residents

will get tickets too.

Angelika Langenfelder

Ms. Langenfelder stated that she has lived there for 12 years and seen parking on both

sides and it has caused issues with pulling out of driveways, etc. She thinks it's a fair

solution.

Beverly Thomas

Ms. Thomas agreed with the staff recommendation with the exception of the signage on

Jackson. That's going to limit the space that parents can wait and will ultimately drive

more parents to park in Cambria. If we leave the No Parking on Fridays, the signs

appear to be discriminatory. She would like to see signs that are more inclusive, like No

Parking, Monday through Friday.

Aly El-Dars

Mr. El-Dars stated that he supports the staff recommendation, however, he agrees with

his wife's (Beverly Thomas) opinion. We need to make it more generic. There is no

reason for anybody to break a law or trespass. If somebody is trespassing the police

have the authority to take them to task, that includes Muslim's going to prayer.

However, we need a solution that solves all problems in that subdivision.

Ausaf Farooqi

Mr. Farooqi said that he is not speaking on behalf of the Islamic Foundation, but on

behalf of Mr. El-Dars. He went on to say that when a Muslim is driving through this area

he's going to think this sign is designed to target Muslims. A sign like that will generate

ill will. The Muslims will agree that if there is a parking problem then have a general

sign. The legal aspect of a city ordinance that targets one group, is unconstitutional.

Chairperson Sebby explained that the Village is not targeting one group. The Village

also has no parking on certain days and certain hours in the vicinity of other religious

institutions. Mr. Farooqi insisted that it still might be a legal concern and explained that

he gets concerned because he sees it as targeting a specific group. It raises animosity

between neighbors which is never healthy for any town.

Angela Murphy

Ms. Murphy said that it sounds like a good recommendation, however, the real issue is

the trespassing. If that alleviates the trespassing, which is the root cause, it would be

good.

Angela Sarno

Ms. Sarno explained that it was the Islamic Foundation leadership that came up with the

solution. Additionally, a police report was filed when about 300 people were

trespassing. The Jackson Middle School issue is several cars not 300 people.

Lombard has been responsive, Villa Park has not. She said she is glad to hear about

the No Parking, Standing, Stopping on Jackson. She further said she has a letter from

the attorney supporting the [Cambria] Boards' decision. The people who live there

should be able to access their own streets and it has improved drastically since the

temporary signs were installed.

Ruth Boburka

Ms. Boburka commented that since the signs have been up the trespassing has

improved. She further commented that the Police Department is enforcing and maybe

she will have grass now.

Art Kostka

Mr. Kostka stated that he thinks it's a good idea. He did notice that when they were

parking on Addison, the east end going around the bend going north, it was a blind turn.

When the cars line up you can't see anything.

Donna Colandra

Ms. Colandra said that she supports everything. She further added that the other night

was a Muslim holiday and she couldn't access the mailbox because of parked cars,

therefore, she thinks Fridays only won't help this.

Gerald O'Leary

Mr. O'Leary asked if anybody has given any consideration to resident parking stickers

instead of no parking. Anderson explained that there was some discussion, but it is not

a viable solution. Chief Byrne further explained that the only allowable permit parking is

commuter lots. They're very difficult to administer and enforce.

Ahmad Khan

Mr. Khan said that he understands we are trying to solve a problem, but he feels like this

is targeting [Muslim's]. Install no trespassing, maybe the Village could put in only

resident parking, maybe that would solve all of the problems.

Naeem Baig

Ms. Baig explained that she lives near a synagogue. On Sundays there is a lot of traffic.

All religious facilities, people should be welcome, should be encouraged. She is against

putting all of these signs where there are services being offered. She went on to say

that the Chairman of the Islamic Foundation is a good person, but he doesn't live in that

area. Nobody should be using his name as a reference because he doesn't know the

reality of what people coming to the Islamic Foundation face. These days, during

fasting, there are a lot of people going at 8 p.m. Friday is a special day. She also said

that she has friends in Cambria. There are other members of Muslim faith who park

there and there are baseball games. The truck being driven over the grass was not

from the Islamic Foundation.

Dawood Galaria

Mr. Galaria stated that if you don't hit the root cause of the problem it won't go away and

he doesn't believe that putting up these signs is going to solve the problem.

Trespassing is the problem. Maybe there should be a small sidewalk, then there

wouldn't be a trespassing problem. This is a planning problem, why did the Village put

in streets too narrow? The planning and not having a sidewalk is the problem and he

would recommend removing the sign for Friday 12-3.

Joan Kostka

Ms. Kostka commented that on Addison the mail truck can not get to the mailbox and

that's a Federal offense. There are a number of times when she tries to deliver and she

has to park in the middle of the road. Legally she could choose to not deliver the mail.

Carmen Cassells,

Ms. Cassells asked if the issue is for part of the day, why not just make the signage for

the time frame, but Monday through Friday; that will eliminate the problem from the

Mosque and Jackson School.

Trustee Soderstrom explained that he did hold a neighborhood meeting. There were a

number of solutions proposed and discussed, none of which had 100% majority opinion.

After 90 minutes of discussion, it was suggested it go through staff recommendation and

the Board of Trustees.

Sherretz asked if there was any problem with Willowbrook students parking in the area.

One of the residents responded that it doesn't seem to be an issue. Sherretz also asked

what kind of parking is available for the baseball fields. Hatfield explained that there is

no formal parking. Sherretz said that as far as the safety aspect it definitely has to be no

parking on one side of street, but she also thinks we need to broaden the other signs

because there are too many issues in that area that would result in parking problems.

Difino said that he went to the site on Friday, but did not get there in time to see if the

Islamic Foundation parking lot was at capacity. He does not know if it's a shortfall on

parking or if it's just people parking there so they can cut through to get out. If they have

sufficient parking his opinion is different. There is the perception that 12-3 is

discriminatory. Another gentleman talked about root causes, you would need to make it

Monday through Friday, which would greatly effect the residents. Difino went on to say

that he would like to know if the homeowners association has considered installing a

fence because that would stop the cut-through. However, right now he would lean

towards No Parking both sides with one being Monday through Friday instead of just

Friday.

Nolan explained that last month this came to the Committee with very little information.

The residents in attendance filled us in a bit. It was not brought to the Committee

originally as a safety issue. With understanding a little more now, she thinks that

parking should not be allowed on both sides. Specifically picking the one time that

people are coming to worship seems incorrect, however, this is a residential street and

the mosque is not on this street. The people that should be there are the people who

live there. Because there is not sufficient parking for the Islamic Foundation, the people

of Cambria are feeling the brunt of it. She further said that she does not think that's fair

that the people who live there have to live with the trespassing. She does not think a

12-3 restriction will solve the problems. There's still the problems with baseball and the

people from the school. She would like a recommendation for Monday through Friday.

Murphy commented that it is the size of the street that causes a problem. He also

agrees that the no parking on the side with the hydrants is a great idea. However, he

thinks that the 12-3 is discriminatory and that's a problem. If we're going to fix the

problem, we need to fix the whole problem. He would recommend Monday through

Friday. The trespassing is a huge problem and people in Cambria deserve to have their

property the way they want it.

Larkin agreed that the Cambria residents have every right to not have people

trespassing. He further said that he is not sure he would put his name on the 12-3

signs, although he does agree with signing the fire hydrant side. He asked if anyone

would be getting the baseball schedule to say no parking during games. Chairperson

Sebby asked Larkin what he would recommend. Larkin answered that he does not have

a recommendation because he does not think it's going to solve the problem.

Chairperson Sebby stated that it appears that there is no question that the majority feel

there should be no parking on the fire hydrant side, 7 days a week. However, the

opposite side sounds like a mixed consensus, with the exception of no parking Monday

through Friday. Nolan asked how early the problem with the students occurs.

Chairperson Sebby reminded the Committee that another option is not to sign the

opposite side at all, but that will not solve the trespass problem. He summarized that it

sounds like there could be a recommendation to install no parking on the fire hydrant

side only, and additional information would be needed before other signage is placed.

Nolan said that she would like to see what restricted parking on the fire hydrant side

would do for the sight distance problems. She also commented that the idea of a fence

may be good and perhaps the Islamic Foundation would pay for it since it's their

members trespassing.

Chairperson Sebby reiterated the recommendation. Difinio said that he believes the

Committee is considering signage for the other side but nobody wants to do the 12 p.m.

-3 p.m. He also thinks that if the Committee is talking about 7 days a week, the

homeowners need to do a poll or maybe consider some fencing options which would

allow us to do one side and still have the other side for guests, etc. Larkin said that he

would like more information on what Villa Park is doing with Highridge. Murphy

answered that there is no parking on Highridge. Larkin commented that also restricts

the Islamic Foundation parking.

Trustee Soderstrom spoke, saying that it is his desire to work out an arrangement that

best suits the residents because it's their neighborhood. Everybody has already agreed

the side of the street with the hydrants should be signed. He explained that he has

already spoken with the residents and they agree that they want something. Perhaps a

suggestion would be to include in the recommendation that the other side be no parking

Monday through Friday, 8 a.m.-5 p.m., which then does not target anybody, but allows

Cambria some flexibility. Trustee Soderstrom said that he believes that would be a

recommendation that might be acceptable to all parties. Difino commented that he

agrees with the suggestion but does not know that 5 p.m. addresses the baseball

problem. Trustee Soderstrom added that it has been expressed to him that the baseball

issue is minute.

Chairperson Sebby asked the Committee members if there was any disagreement with

a recommendation of No Parking on the fire hydrant side and No Parking Monday

through Friday, 8 a.m.-5 p.m. on the other side. Larkin said that he does not agree.

Sherretz pointed out that one resident was questioning if a service truck had to park on

Anderson reminded the Committee members that there will be a joint meeting October

10th at 7p.m. with the Public Works Committee to discuss the Union Pacific

Right-of-Way barrier. Chairperson Sebby asked staff to inform the area residents.

Chairperson Sebby informed the Committee members that the December and January

meetings will have to be changed. It was decided that the Committee will meet

December 11th and January 10th. If January 10th does not work, then it will be the

15th.

Difino asked if aerials of the entire Union Pacific Railroad right-of-way through Lombard

could be provided at the joint meeting. Then it can be illustrated that it's a unique set up

there. Chairperson Sebby asked if those could extend to Addison Road. Anderson said

that we can provide those, but they would be different slides. Chairperson Sebby asked

staff to extend an invitation to the people in Villa Park. Difino asked about the

discussion at the Board meeting regarding maintaining the easement created by the

fence. Anderson explained that we will be installing the fence under the beautification

agreement, therefore, we will have to maintain both sides of the fence (trimming the

fence line, etc.). Chairperson Sebby asked how far into the right-of-way the fence will

be installed. Anderson answered that we have to stay at least 16' away, so we're

looking at 19', thereby creating an alleyway. We'll have to make the perpendicular piece

removable because we have a lot of utilities in there. Difino summarized that the

concern is creating an alley between the new fence and private fences, where they

exist. Larkin asked if we are also responsible for mowing the Union Pacific right-of-way.

Anderson responded, no, they will mow up to the fence.

Chairperson Sebby reminded the committee that another thing that was pushed around

was putting fence on cul-de-sacs only. Difino commented that it doesn't make sense