Village Hall |
255 East Wilson Ave. |
Lombard, IL 60148 |
villageoflombard.org |
Trustee Steven D. Sebby, Chairperson |
Trustee Rick Soderstrom Vice Chairperson |
John Kaforski, Rick Mahal, David Arnold, Art Frerichs, |
Ken Blakeslee and Dan Mahal |
Staff Liaisons: Wes Anderson and David Dratnol |
Chairperson Trustee Steven D. Sebby, John Kaforski, David Arnold, Ken |
Blakeslee, Dan Mahal and Art Frerichs |
Bill Soldwisch, 44 S. Columbine |
Mr. Soldwisch addressed the committee with a request to recommend that the proposed |
sidewalk, as part of the Route 53 Improvements, on the west side of Route 53 south of |
St. Charles Road end at his north property line. There are 13 mature trees that line the |
current property line, which currently serve as a sound-break, help with air pollution and |
shade the house. If IDOT goes forward with the property acquisition for the sidewalk |
those will then be in the right of way. |
The committee discussed the pros and cons of sidewalk installation in front of Mr. |
Soldwisch's home. Dratnol explained that deviation from the sidewalk policy has only |
been allowed in very specific circumstances. In the future, someone else may own the |
home and want a sidewalk there. Frerichs pointed out that the sidewalk does not serve |
any public interest since it dead ends at a bridge abuttment. Sebby suggested any |
further sidewalk deviation requests from the area be looked at on a case by case basis. |
It was moved by Kaforski, seconded by Arnold, to recommend eliminating the |
sidewalk in front of the property at 44 S. Columbine. The motion carried by the |
following vote: |
It was moved by Mahal, seconded by Blakeslee, to approve the minutes of the |
June 10, 2003, meeting. The motion carried by the following vote: |
Dratnol-Sternberg and Archibald have been in for presentations. I would like to talk |
tonight about what the committee would like to see. We'll come back with a draft policy |
incorporating the committees recommendations. For residential areas, I believe the |
committee recommendation was Sternberg Main Street fixture with a cut off fixture, light |
topmounted, type 3 photometrics (light projected sideways), prismatic lenses. Sebby-I |
want to make sure that the guys in the field can work with what we're purchasing. |
Dratnol-We're comfortable with the product and it gives us a standardized product so we |
know what to stock. We're looking at concrete poles. Kaforski-The flared looks better. |
D Mahal-Is that still direct bury? Dratnol-We can look at that. |
Arnold-I don't know if anybody had any interest in that other style bulb. It's a difference |
in power consumption, life of the bulb, and light output. If you could have it sealed up |
better, use less power, less poles and less fixtures and extend your maintenance out a |
few more years. I think we should look at it a little further. They claim that with lower |
wattages you get the same intensity or more. I'd have to pay somebody to do design |
and run a side by side comparison. Arnold-I would like to go see what it looks like in |
Oak Park. Dratnol-We would have to do a side by side comparison. Sebby-If we gave |
our specs to this contractor would we be able to utilize their services as a possible |
marketing tool? Dratnol-I would question what they gave us if we give them Sternberg's |
photometrics. Dratnol-The minimum lighting you want is to light intersections and mid |
block. So you're talking about a 300' spacing. The original criteria in CHAW the |
photometrics were not the governing criteria, it was just 150' spacing. It was an arbitrary |
standard. If you run the photometrics, the spacing went down to 100'. Kaforski-That's |
an example where the photometrics may say one thing but when you go look, you don't |
like it. Dratnol-But when you do an arbitrary standard you open up to liability. If you |
don't do anything, you can't be liable. When you change the conditions you open the |
door to liability. Kaforski-Regardless of liability, to come up to some standard and it's |
too bright, I'm not going to like it and I doubt the people on that street are going to like it. |
Dratnol-For arterial streets we need to talk about what we'd like to see, for example |
Main Steet through residential, do we want to distinguish between residential and |
commercial? Sternberg had proposed an acorn style light with the pedestrian light. On |
the south end we've also got the spun aluminum with a cobra head. Do we want to |
have a single standard for the arterial collector street and what doe the committee want |
to see in that regard? Kaforski-The acorn light, in my opinion, that's what all of Main |
would be at least from Roosevelt Road to North Avenue. Rickard-Once you get into the |
TIF area would you go back to the TIF light? Would you want the TIF lights to stop at |
Maple and then pick up the other? Kaforski-Yes. Arnold-I don't know if I'd agree. As |
you go past there down toward the Prairie Path, that's where the businesses are. You |
have more pedestrian traffic there. Rickard-You can transition wherever you like. |
There's no reason you can't have a TIF style light outside the TIF district. Kaforski-But |
we can change them at anytime. If we were to put in the TIF style light to the Prairie |
Path, you would have to tear up the sidewalk right? Dratnol-The streetscape would be a |
separate project or a project that included the pavers and the lights. Kaforski-To me, at |
this point, it would be a simpler job just to change from the cobra lighting. Arnold-Do |
you have to have the pavers with the TIF lighting? Dratnol-no. Is the standard you want |
for all the arterials; Main, Finley, Westmore, St. Charles outside of TIF, 22nd Street, |
Highland? Arnold-I don't think that's appropriate for Grace. D Mahal-I think it would be |
OK for a 4-lane road. Sebby-It would be appropriate for Grace north of St. Charles. |
Rickard-That's back to the transition, it's more important to pick a style of light now. |
Sebby-So the goal would be, as we move forward, to get everything swapped out. |
Dratnol-In regard to what we've talked about, the only difference we have right now is |
the Lombard Hills East project. The first phase we used halophane. For finishing up |
that neighborhood we would continue using the halophane. Sebby-That would make |
sense. |
Rickard-To go back to the preference on the concrete residential pole. Was there a |
consensus to go to the larger diameter base concrete pole? That's going to be a |
change from what's in all of the recent projects. There was a consensus for the larger |
diameter base concrete pole. |
Dratnol-We'll start drafting the policy. We'll look at the photometrics for the induction |
lighting and get a picture of the larger diameter base. |
Dratnol-We revised the spreadsheet to show homeowner pays first $1,000, the Village |
pays the next $5,000, and the homeowner pays any remainder over $6,000. Sebby-I |
don't want to blow the budget and it doesn't sound like we're going to. I think if we're not |
going to blow our total lump sum, it would probably make sense to raise this to $7,500. |
Rickard-It's one of those programs that if there's more interest we'll bump it up. Sebby-I |
would like to change it to $7,500, we'll have to revise E on the policy to work done after |
July 17, 2003 and eliminate the last sentence. |
It was moved by Mahal, seconded by Kaforski, that this matter be recommended |
to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by the following vote: |
Enactment No: Overhead Sewer Grant |
Dratnol reviewed the project and the staff recommendation. Kaforski-Are we using a |
clear lens in this? Dratnol-No, we told them to use the prismatic lens. There are a lot of |
residences next to the Prairie Path. We recognize that we are going to get the |
complaints. We have a package from ERA now, that does call for the prismatic lens and |
the top mounted lights. Kaforski-And we have the ability to put in the black outs? |
Dratnol-Yes. The criteria for the bike path is actually brighter than for a roadway |
because of the mixed use. Rickard-The County is going to want to keep the lights back |
so there's not a possibility of a bike hitting the post. Sebby-14' vs 10', would it make |
sense to shorten the pole? Dratnol-I would not recommend that, because if you shorten |
it you'll have to install more poles. |
It was moved by Kaforski, seconded by Mahal, that this matter be recommended |
to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by the following vote: |
Enactment No: Illinois Prairie Pat |
Change Order Report |
It was moved by Frerichs, seconded by Blakeslee, that this matter be |
recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by the |
following vote: |
Enactment No: Resolution 15-04 Lif |
Sebby-I just wanted to make the committee aware of the Village's policy on picking up |
storm debris. The homeowner is responsible for private brush, they need to bundle it, |
however, the pick up is free. |
Kaforski-When I saw the skid marks from Waste Management on our brand new |
whitetopping I hit the roof. I think something should be done, whether it be fining, maybe |
then they'll ge tthe message. Sebby-It's time to have Bill send them a notice then. |
Kaforski-The utility work on the 500 block of S. Main St., the temporary patches are in |
bad shape. |
Concoord |
Restoration List |
Procurement Schedule |
Construction Barricade Reports (light deficiencies) |
Engineering Monthly Report |
It was moved by Frerichs, seconded by Blakeslee, that there being no further |
business, the meeting be adjourned at 9:15 p.m. The motion carried by a voice |
vote |