Village Hall |
255 East Wilson Ave. |
Lombard, IL 60148 |
villageoflombard.org |
Trustee Rick Soderstrom, Chairperson |
Trustee Steven D.Sebby, Vice Chairperson |
Greg Gron, Thomas Gibbons, John Schwarz |
Arthur Kuehl and William Lepins,Thomas Murphy |
Staff Liaisons: Deputy Chief Dane Cuny, Patrol Division, Police, |
Justine Gembala, Civil Engineer, Public Works |
Chairperson Trustee Richard J. Tross, resigned William Bergeron, resigned |
Dolores Kempa Cassidy, Greg Gron and William Pool |
Taken as items comes up on agenda. Scott Watkins attending in place of Dane Cuny. |
Attendees: |
Trustee Borgatell |
Trustee Schaffer |
Ed Bedard, new committee member |
Pam Schau, School District 44, 150 W. Madison, Lombard |
Linda Connell, 1451 Sycamore, Lombard |
Stacy Dunber, 1474 Sycamore, Lombard |
Linda Fricano, 1450 Oak Meadow Ct., Lombard |
Keiko Olsen, 1549 Spruce, Lombard |
Tom Schedt, 564 Aspen Drive, Lombard |
Charles Wilson, 1138 E. Addison, Lombard |
Roberta Dirschl, 2263 S. Edson, Lombard |
Mary Grosschart, 212 Gazebo Lane, Lombard |
Loran Eatman, 1474 Oak Meadow Ct., Lombard |
John Gottlieb, 437 Hillcrest Lane, Lombard |
Thomas Wagenaar, 1031 Shedron Way, Lombard |
It was moved by Pool, seconded by resigned Bergeron, to approve. The motion |
carried by a voice vote |
Came per request from Dave Schaffer. DT: Went over Options A,B,C in memo. Close |
to 4 Seasons Park. Schaffer: Spoke with Stan. What did not appear was the option of |
a traffic light to be installed there. Residents are isolated at Pinebrook with no way to |
get to the park. DT: Intersection would have to be scoped a little differently, would have |
no objection to doing the traffic study to see if this is warranted. A full intersection light |
could cause more traffic on Collen. Also,could be a 2nd way out of the Industrial Park. |
Tom Scheidt: I have an 11 year old that cannot go across the street without parents. |
There are 10-12 boys in immediate area that would love to use the park. Of these |
options, I would favor Option C. Loran Eatman: Are we talking about what is at Christ |
the King? DT: No. Loran Eatman: What does that mean, traffic would just slow down? |
Do we have any other lights like this in Lombard? JJ: No. DT: Christ the King has a |
light specifically for pedestrians. Would have to be done at Pinebrook and Collen. Tom |
Schedt: Can't we put a pedestrian light at that intersection? JJ: Can do it mid block, |
but not at the intersection. DT: Would have to be midway, and the residents would |
already have walked halfway to the existing signal. Loran Eatman: What is least |
effective...cars are picking up speed, so Option B is useless. Would favor Option A or C |
. Stacy Dunber: I have 2 small children and find it treacherous to try to cross Finley. At |
first, we would try to wait for all traffic to clear, but now we do the median. I would favor |
Option C. Linda Connell: I have a 3 year old and am a retired municipal attorney. Can |
give you real life stories about cases where crosswalks, etc. were not marked correctly, |
and municipality was held liable. Linda Fricano: I have 3 children and cannot make that |
crossing. I used to take my children to that park, but I cannot do it anymore. The park |
is in walking distance, but I can't cross the street with 3 children. There is a light in |
Elmhurst, not even a block from existing light; they put in an intersection and light. It is a |
full 4-way intersection or a T-intersection. John Gottlieb: anything to make it safer |
would be best. They would have to have a "no right turn on red". Tom Wagenaar: |
President of Homeowners Association. There are kids that walk over to the park for |
soccer. Keiko Olsen: I have 2 children. I have seen people trying to cross and |
stopping in the middle. This is very dangerous. At dusk it is even more dangerous. DT: |
Elmhurst has home rule; we use state statutes. We are required to follow state |
warrants. Elmhurst doesn't have to do it. We do not live by Lombard law, but by state |
law. If it is not warranted, we cannot put it up. BP: Similar situation in Glen Ellyn and |
they lost 1,000,000 dollars. Schaffer: wondering if flashing yellow signal might work. |
DT: Do these kids go to school in Glen Ellyn? JJ: Yes. GG: Let's go back to Main |
Street Prairie Path crossing. Speed limit is different, but a lot more traffic there than in |
Pinebrook. Trustees voted this down and told people to go to Hickory and Maple. Now |
you want us to go for $145,000 for light here? Doesn't make sense. Schaffer: There |
are different precedents here, and is like this comparing apples to oranges. BP: need |
to come up with something feasible and need to have it go to the Board to be approved. |
90% of drivers go speed limit or above? 4-way stop could be answer. BB: A light of |
some sort there would be a good idea. BC: Option C gives a false sense of security to |
children. I like Option A; this would be the safest crossing. Also, I understand children |
would take the shortest route. Personally, I would like to see more options. |
Chairperson Tross introduces Ed Bedard, the new committee member, to committee. |
Bedard: Am not excited at any of these options; would like to see more options. DT: |
Let's proceed with Option B for right now; neon signs, pavement markings, etc. Let's |
find out what we can discover with traffic studies for both pedestrian crossing and traffic |
light. We need to know what the state will allow us to put up and enforce. Schaffer: |
Christ the King would not run a full $70,000? DT: Let our staff get the counts that we |
need. Keiko Olsen: To have to go all of the way to Oak Creek and cross back over is |
ludicrous. |
Committee directed Staff to proceed with Option B and to perform traffic studies for both |
a pedestrian crossing and a traffic light. Table until studies are performed. |
It was moved by Pool, seconded by resigned Kempa Cassidy, that this matter be |
tabled. The motion carried by a voice vote |
Enactment No: Signals at Finley Ro |
JJ: we are removing yield signs. Roberta Dirschl: There are no speed limit signs |
posted at all. DT: would recommend that you don't post 30 mph because people will go |
35 mph. If you want it posted, we will do that. To get you below 30 mph, we must do |
traffic studies. Why not put the speed limit in the homeowner's by-laws? Roberta |
Dirschl: what is a stop sign study? DT; John Johnson is our traffic expert. A traffic |
study was performed did and it does not warrant even a yield sign. JJ: explained |
warrants for stop signs, yield signs, etc. Mary Grosschart: so we have to follow the |
state laws, not what we want. JJ: None of these signs are installed by ordinance so |
tickets issued would not be valid. BC: I believe you ladies should go back to your group |
and try to enforce the speed limit. |
It was moved by Pool, seconded by resigned Bergeron, that this matter be |
recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by a |
voice vote |
Enactment No: Ordinance 4743 Arbor |
It was moved by Gron, seconded by resigned Bergeron, that this matter be |
recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by a |
voice vote |
Enactment No: Ordinance 4743 Traff |
Pam Schau: Wanted to address issues with Manor Hill, but not overshadow Glenn |
Westlake problems. We do not have the money to do all of this. Reviewed drawing |
plan with the committee members. Would like to keep the bus traffic and car traffic |
separate. PS: possibly connector street out to 16th. No money in the budget to take on |
this battle. DT: That is unacceptable without closing the center exit. Closing this is part |
of our master plan and we do have funding for this. Do not have money for the signal, if |
Village will fund, I will go back and co-ordinate this. DT: (To JJ) We already have |
warrants on this, can we get the dollar figures on this? JJ: yes. DT: I believe this is a |
paper street already. |
Enactment No: Main St. and 16th St |
Pam Schau explained proposed traffic plan to committee members. Schau: I met with |
JJ to talk about traffic flow and parking. This is the plan they came up with. By next fall, |
we will be looking at putting in the signage. JJ: it would depend on where we are with |
West Road construction when the signage will go in. Schau: we are concerned about |
kids crossing at West & Greenfield (2-way) now, would like it changed to 4-way stop |
during construction. DT: I have counted at least 18 children that cross at West & |
Greenfield and go down Prairie Path and our easement. You have no crossing |
guards/one of the only schools that does not. Trustee Borgatell would like this also. |
Borgatell: have had numerous contacts with residents in area, and they want a stop |
sign there. It does not warrant it. Only pedestrian traffic there is before and after |
school, otherwise it is very quiet. With West Road construction, the school could utilize |
the crossing guard their best advantage. DT: (to committee members) I'm supporting |
the stop sign at Greenfield and Elizabeth against the recommendation of the committee, |
and instead of the crossing guard. |
JJ: reviewed his discussion with Roy Kazlarich at Pleasant Lane School. Also, |
reviewed drawing with committee. DT; when is this going to be done? And what |
exactly is going to be done out here? This is not a Special Assessment area, is it? MM: |
No. JJ: I already talked with Roy, and when this is designed, they will address the |
issue. DT: directed staff to send a letter to Roy Kazlarich from the committee advising |
that this will be addressed at the time of street improvement. |
(Taken out of order as third agenda item) DT: My understanding of this issue is that |
there was an incident of a child grazing a car. Some signage out there we can install |
rather quickly. Charles Wilson: Father of child hit by car. Works for the State of Illinois. |
I am familiar with the process that needs to be gone through. Thanks to the Village |
President for coming to my home. There is concern on part of the whole complex. This |
is not a first time request. Our entire complex seems to be a cut through for people to |
avoid the stoplight at Jackson. Entire complex is winding streets. There are 2 Yield |
signs; flashing blue lights have disappeared. Seems to be a lack of police monitoring in |
this area in terms of speed enforcement. DT: What do we have out there? JJ: we |
have 2 Yield signs, no Speed Limit signs, no No Parking signs. Have not receive any |
complaints about parking. Have received: Wilson & Addison (request for Stop Signs) |
on east Addison at Wilson. BC: when was that? JJ: about a year after the complex |
opened. DT: Addison & Wilson, east end? JJ: Yield signs are there. DT: Let's not get |
into speed limit signs. GG: there are no signs in this complex. BC: is there anything |
here that you are concerned about John? DT: Nothing warranted here? JJ: possibly |
there would be No Parking signs and Speed Limit signs. Curves are not severe enough |
to warrant any other signage. Wilson: my attorney is in process of subpoenaing |
records from the Association. Watkins: the accident/police report shows that this |
accident happened on Wilson when it actually happened on Addison. GG: Did this |
accident occur at an intersection? Wilson: No. DT: John, do you have any |
recommendation? JJ: All I have for the traffic counts, on every street in town, you have |
a certain percentage of people that speed. What I'm seeing here, average speeds are |
low. There was a study done, I would have to look up exact date. DT: 413 cars in this |
intersection? JJ: Yes. BC: Any obstructions that would warrant anything? DT: Let's |
have JJ go back out and do further studies to see what else we can do. Wilson: would |
like to have more police enforcement during rush hour traffic. DT: this item will be on |
our agenda in December. Committee directed staff to meet with Trustee Kufrin and the |
Cambria Homeowners Association re: Stop Signs at Cambria & Cambria, Wilson & |
Addison and Addison & Wilson. Watkins: one of the big complaints we have is parking |
in warm weather times/residents parking across sidewalk. Could this be a site issue? |
JJ to investigate. |
Enactment No: Ordinance 4751A Camb |
Bemis Road Connector: DT: should we cut in a new road at cost of no less than |
$300,000.00 up to $1,000,000.00. Stan gave an overview of what the 41 residents want |
to do with this road. We have a truck route in the Village of Lombard that says trucks |
must use the most direct truck route. New road would not be a truck route. Committee |
unanimously favored leaving the Glenbard Wastewater Truck Route as is. |
It was moved by Pool, seconded by resigned Bergeron, to adjourn the meeting at |
9:32 pm. The motion carried by a voice vote |