Village of Lombard Legistar System

J.J. reviewed the study and stated that the study did warrant the installation of a

pedestrian signal. This needs to be done in conjuction with the signal being installed at

16th and Main. BB: is that on our property? JJ: yes, our right-of-way. DS: what is the

status of light at 15th & Main? JJ: it is a part of the district's proposed traffic plan. DS:

What is the timing of that? JJ: None of that has been approved yet. Needs to go in to

their budget; I would imagine during the summer. DS: We do not want to go without

any signal there. JJ: No. (Reviewed costs on last page of memo with committee

members) DS: Can I suggest we address the Main & 16th Street signal first. GG:

What is the cost of the signalization on Main Street? JJ: that would also be

$110,000/with Auto Scope $145,000. DS: is Auto Scope more expensive to maintain?

JJ: Warranty is 1 year. Technology is finally there. All done in house. GG: Every year

you maintain these loops in the roads? JJ: yes. As roads get older, loops crack, etc.

MM: Still costs about $1500.00 per loop to repair. With Auto Scope there is less strain

on pavement. DS: You would prefer Auto Scope? JJ & MM: yes. Less costly to

maintain. EB: if those go out, will they switch over? JJ: yes. GG: is this what we are

using now? MM: this is what is out at Yorktown now. We really don't have a history

yet. GG: you have a $35,000 budget for Auto Scope over and above the $110,000?

What about maintenance? MM: Haven't gotten to that yet. GG: Cost of new camera?

MM: $3000-$3500. GG: cost for phone lines? MM: set up in little hubs; cost is similar

to ordinary phone line. JJ: camera will be on all of the time; can dial up a report as

needed.

Added item West Wilson - Main St. to Finley Rd. (per Trustee Tross request)

Based upon previously documented studies covering traffic volume, speed, residential

curb cuts and allowed street parking coupled with neighborhood safety issues to

hopefully prevent future accidents; a recommendation is respectfully requested to install

a single solid bold yellow line and reduce the posted speed limit to 25 MPH.

JJ: solid single bold yellow line...no where does it show that a single solid is used.

Either a skip yellow or a double yellow line. BC: What is the date of the studies that he

is referring to here? DC: Over the last year at least 2 were done I believe. JJ: I believe

one was done last summer. DS: Do the studies show this 25 mph is warranted? JJ:

average speed was 35mph/can lower by 10% which would still leave the posted speed

at 30mph. Drivers do have complete visability of side streets. By the structure of the

road and studies that have been done, speeds will stay around 35 mph. When police

enforcement was out in full force, speed limits did drop. Putting up signage does not

necessarily lower speeds. DS: I believe Dick's idea was that if speed was lowered it

would be easier to ticket 35 at 25 speed. DC: that could be true, but it will not solve

problem just like on tollways. I would prefer to see a School Speed zone and have the

25mph on school days when students are present. Termunde: I believe the studies

showed average speed was 37 1/2 miles per hour. Cars are going over 70-80 mph.

Police do check it, and they slow down. But as soon as police leave, they speed up

again. Students arrive at 6:30 am to get to school. BP: Won't get a ticket at 35mph

with 30 mph speed posted. Termundi: I agree. EB: Why is there not a school zone

speed posted there? Is it just because this is a high school? DC: That law was just

recently changed and I believe this could be posted now. But, I don't think this is a

solution to the problem. DS: Thank you for your time. BC: John, you say at this time a

solid yellow line is not warranted? JJ: not at this time. BC: And we should only post

speed at 30mph? JJ: I know this sounds strange, but if median speed of traffic is

35-37, criteria would be to bring speed limit to 30-32 mph. A study would have to be

done and put on file. Accident problem on that road is with parked cars, not speed

issue. When we looked at results of accidents out there, we exceeded in total numbers.

But when accidents involving parking issues were removed, we fell well below the

required numbers. Termundi: I believe lowering speed limit would solve the problem.

GG: I believe that it would take time for people to get used to it, but within a year you

would see reduced speeds. Termundi: couldn't you put a sign up speed limit strictly

enforced? JJ: Would have to ticket at 31 mph. Termundi: why is Edwards posted

25mph? JJ: the only thing I know about that is that it was posted 25mph before the

improvements were made, they left it that way afterwards.

After Bill Pool made motion and Ed Bedard seconded, Greg Gron asked for discussion

and clarification. GG: asked Dane to explain the the 20 mph school zone policy. Dane:

we could post this but since most of the problems are not during school hours, I don't

believe this will solve the problem. I really don't believe lowering the speed limit will

solve the problems out there. BC: what I don't understand is why anyone motions for

25 mph when John Johnson suggested the median speed should be 30? EB: any

studies that show people drive safer in school zones? MM: one attached to the

agenda. DS: is that a legally enforcable speed limit? DC: no one ever really

challanges this.

BC: I am voting "No" on this. I want to go on record stating that I do not like when

something is shoved down our throats. In this case, staff was not even allowed to do

study; we have had this issue on our agenda for as long as I have been here. I would

like to see studies, etc. before I make a decision.

Committee agreed to try the change of meeting dates to the first Tuesday of the month

and see how it goes. Temporary schedule as follows:

January - no meeting.

February 1, 2000

March 7, 2000

April 4, 2000

May 2, 2000