Village Hall |
255 East Wilson Ave. |
Lombard, IL 60148 |
villageoflombard.org |
Trustee Rick Soderstrom, Chairperson |
Trustee Steven D.Sebby, Vice Chairperson |
Greg Gron, Thomas Gibbons, John Schwarz |
Arthur Kuehl and William Lepins,Thomas Murphy |
Staff Liaisons: Deputy Chief Dane Cuny, Patrol Division, Police, |
Justine Gembala, Civil Engineer, Public Works |
Chairperson Trustee Richard J. Tross, resigned William Bergeron, Greg Gron, |
Ed Bedard and John Schwarz |
It was moved by Gron, seconded by resigned Bergeron, to approve. The motion |
carried by a voice vote |
Tross - rehash to take emergency traffic. Johnson - after we posted these signs, did get |
a call from resident on West Morris, asked that this should also be posted. Tross - gave |
staff the power to send these requests directly to the board on June 6th meeting, so just |
reiterate this again. Bedard - have we ever had any problem with residents not being |
able to park on the street because of this? Johnson -Two incidents, but once we |
rescinded, we will not install again. Tross - Would have to resubmit to the committee as |
a new request. |
Committee gave staff authority to move forward and present requests directly the Village |
Board based upon resident petitions. |
It was moved by Schwarz, seconded by resigned Bergeron, that this matter be |
recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by a |
voice vote |
Traffic Calming |
Johnson - talked with Jerry Tonne today and he has no problem with this. Tross - based |
on primarily Fire Dept. input, we are suggesting that this map would be used to direct |
staff that these are areas that we would not want to post traffic calming on. Bedard - But |
these are the roads that we would want to put traffic calming on. Tross - let's use |
Central as an example. If we do find a problem, we could put in a traffic calming device |
of some sort, an island (not a speed bump), etc. But the streets here are critical to |
Police and Fire. Do not want any physical impediment on these streets. Johnson - |
could we bring to the board? Tross - would like to see this after we talk further about |
traffic calming and what type of devices would be used. Bedard - I would not like to see |
these streets restricted from rumble strips and do not understand why this would be a |
problem for Police or Fire. Johnson - if someone had a neck injury, etc. could cause |
further damage. Tross - that is why I would like to see us hold off on this until we have |
further discussion. Schwarz - another problem with rumble strips is that they are noisy |
and traffic doesn't stop at 10:00 pm. Tross - Also, could damage snow plows. Let's |
bring this back during the winter months for further discussion. Johnson - would also |
like to present some slides. Committee agreed to discuss this item further in the winter |
months. |
It was moved by Gron, seconded by Bedard, that this matter be withdrawn. The |
motion carried by a voice vote |
It was moved by Gron, seconded by Bedard, that this matter be withdrawn. The |
motion carried by a voice vote |
It was moved by Gron, seconded by resigned Bergeron, that this matter be |
recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by a |
voice vote |
Enactment No: Ordinance 4867"On St |
It was moved by Gron, seconded by resigned Bergeron, that this matter be |
recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by a |
voice vote |
Enactment No: Ordinance 4867 Stop |
Tross - did you meet with the safety committees from these schools? Johnson - I met |
with the principals and with Pam Schau from District 44. After the construction was |
completed, all the drop offs were moved to their property. Traffic is moving along well. |
Tross - Did we already put these in under police power/before school started? Johnson - |
signs are there already, we did it well before school started. Tross - so there will be no |
complaining parents? Johnson - No, they knew it well in advance, right up front. |
Commended Officer Zaremba on enforcing this at Madison School. |
**Note - Area south of Madison on Green Valley drive would like to see hours extended |
to (on East side) where there are only 3 houses; or a permanent "No Parking". If they |
send us a letter, we will address. |
It was moved by Gron, seconded by resigned Bergeron, that this matter be |
recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by a |
voice vote |
Enactment No: Ordinance 4867 Hamme |
Tross - I received about 4 phone calls from residents, along with Dave Schaffer about |
cut-through traffic speeding through this area. To get to park or school, need to cross |
Collen. What can we do about reducing the speed? It is not posted, which means that |
the speed limit is 30 mph. I did send out these traffic counts to the residents that had |
complained about this. I did suggest that they take this issue to the school, and have |
them come to us with requests/suggestions. Johnson - It doesn't seem to warrant |
reducing speed limit. Tross - I gave this back to the residents to have them take to |
school, etc. Schwarz - I don't see a real problem here. Bergeron - most people do not |
see a sign, so they actually travel slower. Johnson - yellow/orange on maps are the |
areas that were metra collector streets from years ago. Gron - then we only have option |
to install Yield signs, Stop signs or lower/enforce speed limit. Tross - if I do not hear |
from the schools, etc. I do not see this as a problem. It is far away enough from the |
school, park, etc. to not be a problem. Gron - all of the streets that we need to put |
some sort of traffic calming on, we can't. Bedard - I do not see this as a problem either, |
would like to see more of the streets like this. Tross - just a heads up on this for the |
future. |
Gron - this to me is clearly a safety issue. |
Address sidewalk issues with Private Engineering per committee and Dick Tross. |
It was moved by Gron, seconded by Bedard, that this matter be recommended to |
the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by a voice vote |
Enactment No: Ordinance 4867"No P |
Tross - North Ave. has been put off until 2003. Johnson - before North Ave. is |
reconstructed, Meadow will need to be addressed. Schwarz - Rte. 53 is going to be |
widened to 5 lanes. Tross - Collector street is Madison, not Harrison. Should not have |
7000-9000 cars per day using Harrison. |
It was moved by Bedard, seconded by Gron, that this matter be recommended to |
the Board of Trustees for denial. The motion carried by a voice vote |
Enactment No: Route 64 & West Road |
Move to 1st item due to residents in attendance. M/M Wagner - explained accidents |
that have happened at their home. Hopefully stop sign will slow people down and make |
them stop. Tross - stop signs will not necessarily make people stop or slow down. |
Maybe need something similar to Grace & Hickory. Tross - if cross traffic does not stop |
signs need to be posted. Johnson - as long as you have enough distance to view signs, |
this should work out okay. |
It was moved by Schwarz, seconded by Bedard, that this matter be |
recommended to the Board of Trustees for approval. The motion carried by a |
voice vote |
Enactment No: Ordinance 4867 Stop |
Tross - now that there is a signal at Lombard Rd. & North Ave., the Board will be taking |
issue about putting Lombard Rd. through to Fullerton at Sept. 21st meeting. Do we |
want to close off Frontage Rd. this far off from North Ave. construction? (advised |
committee to think about this over the winter, etc.) We can close off Frontage Rd. at |
Main. Gron - we closed it once before, and you remember what happened. Tross - but |
we didn't have access out at that time. No one has complained but the traffic |
congestion has not changed, we just have 2 spots that are congested now. Schwarz - |
Until you punch through the right in/right out, it will not delay problem. Tross - please, |
just keep this in the back of your minds. Bedard - does every body have access to |
streets? Tross - yes. Johnson - I haven't had any complaints. |
Tross - two other items: one from John Schwarz and one about school busses. |
Schwarz - reviewed his letter with the committee. Unlike some of the other State |
Licensing facilities that use their own property to test new drivers, this facility uses |
Lombard streets to perform tests. What has happened is that the Driving Schools have |
taken to driving the "route" with their students to prepare them for tests. We have a lot |
of strange vehicles in the area. Possibly have Driver's Facility moved elsewhere so that |
they could have their own testing facility on their own property. Tross - you know that |
we cannot prohibit them from using the streets. Schwarz - this is a mall facility and it is |
very busy. Tross - how about if we have Dane Cuny come to the next meeting with who |
is using these streets and for what? My guess is that this is being used by the driving |
school for prepping their students. Schwarz - just not a good area for this because of all |
of the schools, Easter Seals, etc. Tross - let's have them bring us the planned area for |
testing and it opens the door for us to see what streets are being used. Gron - State |
properties do not pay taxes, but the developer does. Tross - yes, but having this facility |
does generate people coming in to our Village and is also a convenience to our |
residents. Let's open the door and talk with them and see what we can find out. Bedard |
- is it legal to drive on those streets? Tross - yes, they have permits and are with |
licensed driver. Bedard - I can understand the concerns here, I have driven behind |
some of these students. Tross - I agree with what you are saying, and I hope this is a |
reasonable way to address this. Schwarz - Yes, please have Dane check on this and |
report back to us. Committee directed Dan to report back on this at the next meeting. |
School Busses: Tross - I personally received three complaints about school busses. In |
Trustee Sebby's district - it is a complaint of code enforcement. A resident parks a |
school bus on her private property/she can take her school bus and park on Grace, |
legally, blocking View. Her issue is why can't I park a school bus on my driveway? |
Code enforcement states that what is prohibited is vehicles designed to carry more than |
10 passengers. 2nd complaint is from Trustee Florey's district - resident parking bus |
on street and neighbors would like them to park on driveway. 3rd complaint is resident |
on Harrison that has a small bus, and neighbor will not allow her to park on double |
divider. Wants to park about a block away in "No Parking, School" area. I suggested |
that if she got the school bus with the handicap sticker, handicap sticker takes |
precedent. Bergeron - I would rather see the bus parked in the driveway instead of on |
the street. Schwarz - I would rather see them bring the bus back to a parking area and |
get their private car. Tross - time in between shifts is about an hour, which is not |
enough time to do this and complete their shifts. They are allowed to park on the |
streets, if it doesn't block any vision during the day (not at night). Johnson - is a school |
bus considered commercial? Tros - yes, according to code enforcement staff. Bedard - |
What is wrong with parking in the driveway? Tross - she doesn't want to pull the big bus |
in her driveway. Secretary of State does not consider school busses commercial |
vehicles. They have completely separate standards than other busses. Gron - is our |
ordinance different from the State ordinance? Tross - yes. Gron - then I would like to |
see it changed. Tross - is it the con census of the committee that if you can put a school |
bus on your driveway, as long as it is not overnight or on the weekend, it is okay? If |
totally on the driveway and not a safety issue at all, should be okay? Cuny - we know |
what they are doing. The concents of the committee was that this would be appropriate. |
Millette - I will be attending an information study tomorrow in Wheaton for Rte. 53. Tross |
- should be right in/right out everywhere except Madison. Johnson - should be |
signalized at Madison; this is the only collector. Tross - also address Meadow issues |
(protected left turn lane). Johnson - need to collect some information from some |
residents, I do not have anything ready for this. |
Schwarz - I will not be able to attend on 10/3. I am having surgery on 10/04. Tross - |
we will not meet in October, and will meet next on Nov. 7th. |
It was moved by Schwarz, seconded by Bedard, to adjourn the meeting at 9:12 |
p.m. The motion carried by a voice vote |