Monday, December 17, 2007
7:30 PM
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
Plan Commission
Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson |
Commissioners: Martin Burke, |
Stephen Flint, Ronald Olbrysh, |
Ruth Sweetser and Richard Nelson |
Staff Liaison: William Heniff |
Meeting Minutes
Plan Commission
Meeting Minutes
December 17, 2007
Call to Order
Chairperson Ryan called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Call of Members
Chairperson Donald F. Ryan, Commissioner Stephen Flint, Commissioner |
Ronald Olbrysh, Commissioner Ruth Sweetser, Commissioner Martin Burke |
and Commissioner Richard Nelson |
Present:
Also present: William Heniff, AICP, Senior Planner; and George Wagner, legal counsel |
to the Plan Commission. |
Chairperson Ryan called the order of the agenda. |
Mr. Heniff read the Rules of Procedure as written in the Plan Commission By-Laws. |
Public Hearings
PC 07-33: 5 E. North Avenue |
Requests that the Village grant a variation from Section 153.505 (B)(6)(d)(2) of the Sign |
Ordinance to allow for an increase in the height of a freestanding-sign from twenty-five |
feet (25) to a height of thirty (30) feet, located within the B3 Community Shopping |
District. (DISTRICT #4) |
Skip Spanjer of North Shore Signs, 1925 Libertyville, IL presented the petition. Mr. |
Spanjer stated that his client wishes to increase the height of his freestanding sign from |
twenty-five (25) feet to thirty (30) feet by adding to the existing steel posts. Mr. Spanjer |
then mentioned that the existing freestanding sign was erected prior to the barrier wall |
on North Avenue being built in 2003. He added that the sign is difficult to see while |
traveling west to east along North Avenue and increasing the height would allow a better |
viewing distance. Mr. Spanjer then stated that increasing the height would make it |
easier for potential customers to see the sign, then be able to slow down and make a |
safe turn into the gas station. He added that staff took two excellent pictures of the |
existing conditions. Mr. Spanjer finished by again stating that an additional five (5) feet |
in height would help people see the sign while traveling eastbound along North Avenue. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for public comment. |
Mohammed Hockla, owner of the Philips 66 gas station, at 5 E. North Avenue, Lombard, |
IL spoke on his concerns of condition number three listed in the staff report, which |
pertains to the burying of the overhead line. Mr. Hockla stated that the condition to bury |
the overhead line is already listed as a condition of approval for his 25 E. North Avenue |
development. He added that condition number three listed in the staff report would only |
delay his sign permit. Mr. Hockla stated that it would take a lot of time to coordinate the |
burying of the line. |
Chairperson Ryan then requested the staff report. |
William Heniff, Senior Planner, presented the staff report which is submitted to the public |
record. Mr. Heniff stated that the petitioner wishes to increase the height of his |
freestanding sign from twenty-five (25) to thirty (30) feet. He added that in 2003 a barrier |
wall was built to the west of the subject property along North Avenue, which creates a |
visual barrier. Mr. Heniff stated that staff can conceptually support the variation as the |
hardship was created by the barrier wall and by no actions of the property owner. He |
added that increasing the visibility of the sign would allow people traveling eastbound |
along North Avenue to see the sign and slow down in time to make a safe turn into the |
Mr. Heniff then stated that the proposed sign would only create minimal visual or light |
impacts on the surrounding properties as the sign is approximately 370 feet from the |
home at 680 N. Charlotte Street. He noted that staff superimposed the sign in |
Photoshop to illustrate how the neighboring properties would view it. |
Mr. Heniff made note to condition three of the staff report, which pertains to the burying |
of the overhead line. He stated that burying the line would reduce the visual impact of |
the property, which was required of the 25 E. North Avenue development. |
Chairperson Ryan opened the meeting for comments from the Plan Commission. |
Commissioner Sweetser asked how the timeline for condition number three of the staff |
report would work. |
Mr. Heniff stated that securing the permit for burying the overhead line would have to be |
concurrent with the freestanding sign permit or the development of 25 E. North Ave., |
whichever is first. |
Commissioner Sweetser stated that weather conditions could delay the burial of the |
overhead line. |
Mr. Heniff added that they could not obtain the sign permit without addressing the burial |
of the overhead line because staff would have no mechanism to ensure that the line |
actually gets buried. |
Commissioner Sweetser stated that she was unsure of the implementation process for |
the burying of the line. |
Mr. Heniff responded to Commissioner Sweetser's comment by stating that the burial of |
the cable would have to be done either in conjunction with the sign permit or the 25 E. |
North development. |
Chairperson Ryan stated that getting the electric company out to the site could take |
time. He then asked how this would affect the sign permit. |
Mr. Heniff stated that the petitioner would have to apply for permit for burial permit |
concurrently with the sign permit. He added that there might be scheduling issues. He |
then added that the petitioner could get the burial permit before the sign permit is |
approved. The objective is that staff does not want the petitioner to erect the sign |
without the burial of the overhead line. |
Chairperson Ryan then asked if the burial does not have to come before to the sign |
permit is issued. |
Mr. Heniff stated that the permits could be issued at the same time or burial could be |
done before the sign permit. He then added that there could be no sign permit without |
the burial permit. |
Commissioner Burke added that just because the petitioner gets a permit, it does not |
mean he has to perform the work. He stated that the petitioner could erect the sign then |
sit on the burial permit. |
Mr. Heniff stated that the Plan Commission could amend condition number three to state |
that the burial must occur before sign permit is issued. |
Chairperson Ryan stated that he was against amending condition number three to state |
that the burial has to be completed first. He added that the petitioner would be dealing |
with the electric company, which is already two years behind. |
Commissioner Sweetser stated that just because they get a permit doesn't mean that |
there is a completion date. |
Mr. Heniff replied that the permit would have to be completed in a timely manner or it |
would expire. |
Commissioner Sweetser stated that the Commission should determine leverage with a |
reasonable completion date. |
Mr. Heniff added that the Plan Commission would want to make sure there is a nexus to |
the burial of the line, but take into consideration that this is winter. He stated that an |
example would be to complete the burial within 6 months. |
Commissioner Burke stated that the burial should occur at least within six months, but |
that provision could be arbitrary and provides no leverage. |
Mr. Heniff stated that the Plan Commission should make sure that the conditions are |
satisfied. |
Commissioner Burke then asked how important is it to staff to have cable lines buried. |
Mr. Heniff stated that it is very important to get it done because if 25 E. North never gets |
developed then the line would not get buried. |
Commissioner Burke suggested that the conditions should be approved, as written. |
Chairperson Ryan stated that if the wall went up after the sign was built then we are |
penalizing him with this condition. He added that the timeframe for this sign along with |
the other location would be enough leverage to get the line buried. |
Commissioner Burke stated that the petitioner should go ahead and put the sign up then |
deal with ComEd and attach a fine as an incentive to bury the line. |
Mr. Heniff stated that if work is not done then the variation could be revoked which |
would require the sign to be taken down if the line is not buried. |
Commissioner Olbrysh stated that the petitioner should not be penalized if the permit |
expires because of ComEd. |
Chairperson Ryan stated that the Plan Commission should come up with compromise. |
Counselor Wagner stated that another alternative would be that the line must be buried |
within six months to a year. |
Commissioner Nelson asked if the Commissioners would even be talking about the |
burial issue without the signage request. |
Mr. Heniff replied that they are two different issues but the burial of the line is a condition |
of the petition. |
It was moved by Commissioner Sweetser, seconded by Commissioner Olbrysh, |
that this matter be Recommended for approval to the Corporate Authorities |
subject to the amended condition(s). The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser, Burke and Nelson
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1. The approved sign shall be designed and constructed consistent with the drawings of |
the proposed sign prepared by North Shore Sign, dated November 5, 2007 and the Site |
Plan, prepared by Illini Consulting Group, Inc, dated January 8, 1998, and shall not |
exceed thirty feet in height. |
2. The petitioner shall apply for and receive a building permit from the Village prior to |
making any modifications to the sign. |
3. The property owner/petitioner shall bury any electrical service lines required to serve |
the subject property. Compliance shall consist of the removal of the existing overhead |
electric line crossing Main Street, which serves the subject property and replacing the |
overhead line with a buried line to be located underneath Main Street and/or North |
Avenue, with buried service lines to the buildings and structures on the subject property. |
The utility line burial shall be completed within one year from the date of Ordinance |
approval. If the one year completion date cannot be met as a result of actions beyond |
the petitioner's control, this time period may be extended by the Director of Community |
Development. The petitioner shall apply for the utility burial permit concurrent with the |
sign permit. |
PC 07-43: 201-211 Roosevelt Road (Southeast Corner of Roosevelt & Garfield) |
Pursuant to Section 155.504 (A)(1) and (10) of the Zoning Ordinance (Major Changes to |
a Planned Development), the petitioner requests that the Village amend Ordinances |
5878 and 5879 which granted approval of a second amendment to an annexation |
agreement and a planned development amendment respectively, to provide for an |
alternate north and west building elevations. (DISTRICT #6) |
Glenn Remus, Director of Real Estate for Buffalo Wild Wings, 5500 Wayzata Blvd., |
Minneapolis, MN, presented the petition. Mr. Remus stated their request for a variance |
to the planned development to modify the masonry building and allow for their signage |
and trade dress as they are proposing. He gave the history of Buffalo Wild Wings and |
how they have 22 locations in the Chicagoland area. He stated that their proposal |
would incorporate their corporate trade dress. They have signed 5-year lease with the |
V-Land Corporation subject to their petition. Concluding, he stated they will employ |
between 80-120 individuals, generate an annual payroll of $650,000 and generate $2-3 |
million in eligible sales tax capture. |
Chairperson Ryan asked if there was anyone to speak in favor or against this petition. |
Hearing none, the staff report was requested. |
William Heniff, Senior Planner, presented the staff report which was submitted to the |
public record in its entirety. He reiterated the request for an amendment to the planned |
development to provide for an alternate building elevation and design for the north and |
west elevations. The request is to substitute the approved brick facade with yellow EIFS |
which is to be placed above the storefront. Staff is considering this a major change to |
the planned development and is being brought forth for consideration. |
Mr. Heniff summarized the history of the site beginning with the 2002 annexation of the |
Sharko's site and the 2004 proposal that also included the 13th street duplex units and |
the Riley's Pub site. In 2006 a planned development amendment was approved by the |
Village Board which included conditions that stated that the site be developed in |
accordance with the site and development plan packet submitted at that time. |
The proposed building elevations are not consistent with what was approved by the |
Village Board. Staff made the interpretation that the change constitutes a major change |
to the planned development. In the last IDRC report in 2006 and in conversations by the |
Plan Commission, it was noted that the building elevations included EIFS along the |
north and west elevations. The approval of the petition stated they should submit |
revised final building elevations prior to final consideration. That request was to reduce |
the amount of EIFS and add masonry which was agreed upon by the petitioner and |
made part of the final plans. The submitted request is not consistent with the 2006 |
approvals. |
The intent of Planned Developments per the Zoning Ordinance standards state that |
planned developments are intended to provide a "unified and compatible design of |
buildings, structures and site improvements". Staff believes that the petitioner's |
proposed plan is a departure from the planned development standards as it is not in |
keeping with the unified building design for the in-line center. |
Mr. Heniff noted that staff does recognize corporate's desire to maximize their visual |
impact by establishing prominent building features and color palettes. However, when |
substantial zoning relief is provided on a property, the intent of granting relief is to help |
ensure that a better overall design is achieved through the planned development |
approval. In this case, the 2006 approval achieved its effect by providing for consistent |
building design. He noted that the petitioner could meet the overall signage provisions |
by installing their desired sign package on the approved building elevations. He also |
noted other Buffalo Wild Wings planned developments have been successfully |
established blending the overall planned development into their building elevations. Mr. |
Heniff referred to the Commissioners' packets which showed some examples of signage |
packages for other Buffalo Wild Wings' locations. One was a planned development in |
Warrenville where the building design and signage package is compatible. He also |
referred to the Plainfield facility. He noted that the petitioner has indicated that these |
facilities do not reflect their current prototype and the proposed signage plan is more |
consistent. However, staff believes that planned development approvals or other zoning |
relief should be based upon the existing site conditions and the goal of creating a |
cohesive development rather than meeting a corporate design palette. |
Mr. Heniff noted that the proposed modification would not be consistent for the following |
reasons: |
1. It introduces an alternate color and building design. |
2. It is inconsistent with the east building elevation and |
3. Approval of the amendment could provide a precedent for future building elevation |
amendments that are not consistent with the initial intent. |
This could lead to incremental changes that could further move the building design from |
where it was intended. The approved planned development packet also included |
building elevations so any amendments would require new building elevation plans as |
well as be incorporated into the second amendment. |
Although the initial approvals were prior to the Roosevelt Road corridor study, there is a |
preferred use in the corridor which states that restaurants are a preferred land use and |
buildings should incorporate architectural design features on all building elevations. |
Staff believes that the petitioner's request for a modified building material and color |
palette is not compatible with the initial building design. While selected establishments |
within the corridor have integrated their prototypes into their buildings, the petitioner's |
request would not be consistent with the planned development in which it exists. |
Concluding, Mr. Heniff stated that staff is recommending denial of this petition as it is not |
consistent with the intent of the planned development as previously recommended by |
the Plan Commission and approved by the Village Board. |
Chairperson Ryan opened up the meeting for comments by the Commissioners. |
Commissioner Flint indicated that he agreed with staff. |
It was moved by Commissioner Olbrysh, seconded by Commissioner Sweetser. |
The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser, Burke and Nelson
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PC 07-44: 336 through 369 Buckingham Court |
Requests that the Village approve a variation from Section 155.205 (A)(1)(c)(1) to allow |
for an increase in fence height of up to eight feet in height along the rear property line of |
land abutting the Illinois State Toll Highway Authority property, where a maximum of six |
feet is allowed, for property located within the Buckingham Orchard R4PD Limited |
General Residence, Planned Development District. (DISTRICT #1) |
The petitioner Andy Klatt of Dearborn Buckingham Group, presented the petition and |
noted the requested relief. He stated that they are requesting approval of an eight-foot |
high fence along the west property line to provide for additional visual screening of the |
tollway from their development. He noted that the existing townhomes have an English |
basement design and the units are at a distinctly higher elevation. To date they have |
constructed twelve townhouse units in the developments, of which seven units have |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for public comment. No one spoke in favor |
of or in opposition to the petition. He then requested the staff report. |
William Heniff, Senior Planner, stated that the Zoning Ordinance caps fence heights at |
six feet for residential properties. The developer would like to erect an eight foot high |
fence along the west property line, abutting the tollway property, to provide additional |
screening for existing and prospective residents. |
He stated that the Illinois State Toll Highway Authority (ISTHA) has constructed |
noise/visual barrier fencing along selected stretches of the tollway. ISTHA does not |
have any plans to erect such walls or fencing at this location. The adjacent tollway |
property is not surplus land and includes the roadway cross section itself. It is not |
anticipated that the adjacent property would ever be redeveloped in the future. The |
constructed townhomes and their ancillary decks are at a distinctly higher elevation than |
the depressed tollway. The additional fence height does provide an additional at-grade |
visual screening for the residences. If the abutting property was a commercial or |
industrial use, the proposed fence would be permitted by right. Staff believes the |
segregation factors already provided for in the Zoning Ordinance for other abutting |
non-residential uses provides a rationale for supporting this request as well. Staff would |
not object to the 8' high fence extending all the way to the north property line of the |
planned development, in order to provide maximum screening of the tollway. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for comments among the Plan |
Commissioners. |
Commissioner Sweetser asked the petitioner whether this petition is being requested on |
behalf of the residents within the Buckingham Orchard development. Additionally, she |
asked if this request is being made to provide visual screening for residents looking out |
their respective windows or to prevent others from looking into their residences from |
adjacent properties. Mr. Klatt sated that the request was being made on behalf of the |
existing and proposed residents and the intent is to help block the resident's view of the |
tollway. |
Commissioner Burke inquired about the proposed fence design. Mr. Klatt noted that the |
eight-foot high cedar fence is intended to mirror the fencing that was approved along |
Route 53 as part of the Buckingham Meadow development. |
It was moved by Commissioner Flint, seconded by Commissioner Burke. The |
motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser, Burke and Nelson
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1. The proposed fence shall be constructed in accordance with the submitted plans as |
shown on the Buckingham Orchard Landscape Plan Exhibit (with proposed fence |
location), dated October 25, 2006, prepared by Pugslie & Lahaie Ltd.; consistent with |
the petitioner's submitted photographs of the proposed 8' fence. |
2. The petitioner's proposed fence shall be permitted along the west property line of the |
approved planned development and abutting the adjacent tollway property, from the |
Pleasant Lane public right-of-way to the southern extent of the approved planned |
development. Any other fencing within the planned development shall meet the |
provisions of the Zoning Ordinance. |
3. The petitioner shall apply for a building permit for the proposed fence prior to |
installation. The permit should also satisfactorily address any companion engineering |
issues as well. |
SPA 07-13ph: 2820 S. Highland Avenue |
Requests site plan approval of a deviation from Section 153.505 (B)(19)(b)(2)(a) to allow |
the display of four (4) wall signs for a single tenant within a multiple-tenant building, |
located within the B3PD Community Shopping District Planned Development. |
Guy Dragisic, Olympic Sign Company, 1130 N. Garfield, Lombard, indicated he was |
presenting the petition on behalf of Sweet Tomatoes. They are requesting a logo sign |
on the east building elevation and a channel sign to be installed on the rear/west |
elevation. He stated they have a unique situation in that they are located in an in-line |
strip center that has no tenant signage or the ability to display graphics out by the street. |
The fear is that a building will be constructed north and/or east of their facility and will |
result in minimal visibility, so it is their desire to put the tomato logo on the front |
elevation. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for public comment. There was no one to |
speak in favor or against the petition. Hearing none the staff report was requested. |
William Heniff, Senior Planner, submitted the staff report to the public record in its |
entirety. He stated that the retail center was approved in June 2005 which allowed for |
each tenant to have 2 wall signs. The petitioner is requesting a total of 4 wall signs. He |
noted the locations of the previously approved signs and stated that the locations of the |
2 proposed signs - one on the west building elevation facing the Great Indoors and the |
tomato logo on the east elevation. Sweet Tomatoes is the first Highlands of Lombard |
tenant within a multi-tenant building to request additional signage. He mentioned that |
staff could support their request for relief for the west elevation for the same reasons |
that staff previously supported relief to allow interior tenants to display 2 wall signs. |
Allowing a sign on each elevation further emphasizes the 4 sided nature of the building. |
This sign would also function as a directional sign and would be seen primarily by |
customers already within the Highlands of Lombard planned development. A wall sign |
on each elevation would also be consistent with relief granted to other single tenant |
buildings within the planned development. |
Staff does not support the fourth sign on the east elevation as there are no unique |
circumstances pertaining to this tenant space that distinguishes it from other tenant |
spaces within the multi-tenant building. Allowing Sweet Tomatoes to display multiple |
wall signs would set a precedent to every other tenant within all three retail centers |
within the Highlands of Lombard. |
Mr. Heniff stated that staff believes that the signage for the west elevation can be |
supported but not for the east elevation and recommends approval in part of SPA 07-13 |
subject to the conditions noted in the staff report. |
Chairperson Ryan opened the meeting for comments from the Plan Commission. There |
were no comments by the Commissioners. |
It was moved by Commissioner Burke, seconded by Commissioner Flint, that this |
matter be approved relative to relief for the third wall sign only located on the |
west building elevation subject to conditions and denial of all other relief: The |
motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser, Burke and Nelson
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1. This approval is limited to the proposed wall sign on the west elevation only. All |
other requested relief is denied. |
2. The proposed wall sign on the west building elevation shall be constructed in |
substantial compliance with the submitted plans prepared by Royal Sign Co., dated |
August 28, 2007 and made a part of the petition. |
3. All wall signs on the proposed buildings must be of a channel letter design. |
Commissioner Sweetser commented that there is nothing in the future that would |
preclude the petitioner from returning if conditions change and that a hardship has been |
created. Mr. Heniff stated they could come back at a later date if they needed to. |
Business Meeting
The business meeting convened at 8:31 p.m.
Approval of Minutes
Mr. Heniff noted that Village Counsel found a few scrivener's errors. |
The minutes were approved by unanimous consent of the members present with the |
correction of the scrivener's errors noted by Counsel. |
Public Participation
There was no public participation.
DuPage County Hearings
There were no DuPage County hearings.
Chairperson's Report
The Chairperson deferred to the Senior Planner.
Planner's Report
The Senior Planner reminded the Commissioners of the change in the January Plan |
Commission meeting which is scheduled for Monday, January 28, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. |
Unfinished Business
There was no unfinished business.
New Business
There was no new business.
Subdivision Reports
There were no subdivision reports.
Site Plan Approvals
There were no site plan approvals.
Workshops
There were no workshops.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m. |
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Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson |
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William Heniff, AICP, Senior Planner |