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Trustee Tross added that he wanted to clarify that Mr. Christensen is associated with

one of the RFP respondents. President Mueller said that Mr. Christensen is a

consultant to the McClure Plan.

Pam Pulice, 1801 S. Stewart, spoke about the Theater saying that the DuPage is

extraordinary and presented a brief history of the Theater. She likened the ceiling to the

Sistine Chapel. She urged true preservation as opposed to adaptive reuse. She asked

for a resolution of support from the Village, teamed with citizens, to preserve the

Theater.

Kathy Simons, 1104 Cambria Lane President of the Cambria Homeowners group, asked

that the Board reconsider them as an exception to the Waste Management Contract

because the trash containers are too large for their garages. She said that the homes

are occupied by 2 or fewer people and don't need the large containers. She feels that

multiple family homeowners should have more representation. She asked that they

have the option of 32-gallon containers instead of the 64-gallon containers. She stated

that they had proposed that they pay the 64-gallon price for the smaller container, but

the Village ignored their request.

Cindy Miller, 1118 N. Cambria, reiterated the problem with the size of the containers

including damage to their cars pulling into and out of their garages. She asked that the

Village consider the views of the Cambria residents.

President Mueller said that they had met and that the reply was sent to Ms. Schrank.

He said that he offered that the Environmental Concerns review the matter but they

wanted to take it to the Board Meeting.

Trustee Kufrin said that he had not been contacted but staff had been. He has heard

about the their subdidvisions regulation about no cans outside of the garages but found

a small number that were actually outside of the garages. He said that Waste

Management was prepared to provide the smaller cans but unless the residents notified

them they were given the larger cans

John Burg commented that there is not much difference in the size and width, only 2

inches or so. He said that the negotiations only included the smaller cans for Seniors

only. He explained that contractually Waste Management has the right to say the 32

gallons will be provided to only the senior Program. The matter could go back to the

Committee, he said, but he added that Waste Management had quite a bit of money

invested in the larger cans at this point.

Other Trustees commented that the Senior program was advertised and they thought

that the issue of the smaller can was resolved after weeks of advertisement. It was

agreed that the discussion should be sent to the Environmental Concerns Committee. It

was suggested that each of the multifamily homeowners associations be brought into

the process.

President of Board of Local Improvements, Lorraine G. Gerhardt, was unable to attend.

Trustee Tross had attended and gave Gerhardt the following report: Action was taken

on payouts to Trine in the amount of $55,132.05 for Special Assessment 213, to

Civiltech Engineering in the amount of $2,609.90 also for Special Assessment 213 and

to Civiltech for $11,307.90 for Special Assessment 213 as well as a request for a

payout to Civiltech in the amount of $1,002.51 for Fountain Square Engineering, Special

Assessment 215. They also approved a payout in the amount of $31, 671.95 for

Special Assessment 217. She concluded, reporting that Special Assessment 213B was

discussed and a bill for $3,100.00 was approved for payment to Chicago Title for title

dedication and search work regarding Right of Way property ownership for Special

Assessment 213B.

Trustee Borgatell asked whether the Text Amendment ordinance on tonight's agenda

should be amended. He commented on a new subdivision where a vertical walled

detention pond was built within 10 feet of a back door with no fencing. He sited the

same problem at Parkview School and asked that wording saying that the contractor

must add a fence when a detention pond is near a building. President Mueller

suggested it be sent to staff and bring an amendment to the Board at a later time.

Also referring to the Text Amendments ordinance, Trustee Tross asked for clarification

about a Planned Development being in control of the Plan Commission with no appeal to

the Board of Trustees. He asked that a change be made to add a process of appeal

before second reading. Tom Bayer responded saying that the language could be added

before the second reading. William Heniff gave a clarification that the provision only

included signs. Approval of the Planned Development would be made by the Board of

Trustees. Tross said that there needs to be an appeal process to come before the

Board. It was agreed that the language would be added addressing the appeal process

for all aspects of a Planned Development.

In regards to the 2010 Stormwater Study, Trustee Tross asked if the analysis of existing

stormwater facilities is being done. Mr Lichter said the study is ongoing.

Trustee Tross said that the Village Board had approved this matter on May 18th to

begin the program in the Olde Towne area. He said that he is concerned because the

amount allotted the program was $120,000 for inspections and grant money and we are

spending not to exceed $65,000 for inspections alone; more money for the inspections

than for the grants to help the homeowners. He feels that compliance inspections can

be done more cheaply.

Village Engineer David Dratnol explained that this inspections group has experience in

the Olde Towne area and they have presented their charges per property. Mr. Lichter

offered to look for alternate contractors for the inspections.

Trustee Sebby indicated that it may be a good idea to bid this out as he feels that the

cost for inspection of homes that have already been inspected is too high. The Board

concurred.

David Dratnol said that they will put out a request for proposals.

Trustee Kufrin suggested that the Board discuss the possibility of the referendum and

mentioned that he had reviewed the tape of the August 1 meeting and at that time 4

people had spoken in support of a referendum. He said that citizens spoke who wanted

the theater but they did not understand the financial burden to the Village. He said that

the School District Officials spoke and were not in favor of extending the TIF. He

reviewed the efforts of the Ad Hoc Committee to study redevelopment of the Theater

and commented that the Theater has not withstood the test of time, that the Theater has

not proven itself for 15 or 20 years. He urged the Village Board to approve a November

referendum to ask the residents if they want the Theater restored.

President Mueller said that there will be a meeting on August 24th for staff to discuss the

proposals and ask questions of the two developers who are still interested. He also told

the Board that Big Idea had been contacted regarding granting an extension of time

before the property is conveyed to the Village and they had refused to grant the

extension. He added that the tour that had been scheduled for the developers to view

the property had been postponed until sometime in September.

Other Trustees spoke in support or opposition to a referendum. The Trustees all

supported the concept of including the Public in the decision of financial support to

renovate the Theater, but the feeling of a No-Win situation was developing. There

appeared to be a doubt on the part of the Board of the Village's ability to finance the

project.

It was suggested that the meeting next week would be helpful in making whatever

decisions the Board wishes to make. President Mueller urged the Board to accept the

gift of the property from Big Idea and spoke in support of saving the Theater.

Trustee Kufrin emphasized that he felt it was important to go to the residents with the

question and asked Attorney Bayer if he could prepare an advisory question for the

November Ballot.

President Mueller said that he hears the same people say the same thing and out in the

neighborhoods he hears something else. He emphasized how important the meeting

next Thursday will be. He also said that he feels we should accept the property. He

said that the matter should come back to the Board after the meeting on August 24. He

suggested that we accept the gift and tell the developers that we have 2 Million in TIF

dollars and the money may be able to help the cultural groups to fund an Arts Center. If

the citizens raise funds the money could be used to match the amount raised. He said

that he will call County Board Chairman Schillerstrom and see if the situation of grant

money has changed, although he has been told many times by Mr. Schillerstrom that

there is no money.

Trustee Tross felt that the matter of an advisory question should be suspended until

they reach a decision on whether or not to accept the gift of the properties from Big Idea.

Trustee Kufrin agreed to remove his motion Trustee Schaffer agreed to remove his

second.

Trustee Tross then moved, seconded by Trustee Schaffer, that the Village Board accept

the gift from Big Idea and have the Village Attorney prepare the proper papers to convey

the title of the property to the Village.

Trustee Tross, having made the motion, stated that he was in opposition to accepting

the property, and made the motion for purposes of further discussion and would vote no

on the matter.

President Mueller asked Manager Lichter for the results of the environmental studies as

that had been a concern of some of the Trustees at the August 1, 2000 meeting.

Mr. Lichter responded that a Phase I and a partial Phase II environmental study had

been completed and the property was shown to be clean.

Trustee Sebby asked what the value of the empty property would be.

Mr. Lichter answered that the combined properties of the DuPage Theater site and the

former Brust property would be estimated at 1.8 Million to 2 Million dollars in value.

Various opinions were given by some of the Trustees regarding potential environmental

problems inherent in owning land, saying that they were in favor of giving the land back

to Big Idea. Other Trustees felt that the proper steps had been taken to ensure that

there were no hidden environmental problems and that it would be foolish not to take the

land which could benefit the Village financially. The vote was taken on Trustee Tross's

Much discussion followed as to whether the property was actually a gift. President

Mueller said that this is a gift and with so many great things like development going on;

as we build for the future we should also preserve the past. He said that the Board gave

direction for staff to investigate and seek developers for the property, and he feels that

we should follow through on these opportunities. To let the opportunity go would be a

loss to the Community.

Discussion ensued about acceptance of the land, various proposals and the possibilities

of future proposals that may be available that were not in the RFP process.

Trustee Kufrin called for the question.

President Mueller asked to withhold to allow for Public Participation Trustee Kufrin

agreed.

Karen Tangeman, 301 E. North Avenue, said that she was watching at home and

couldn't believe what was being discussed and she got off her sofa and put on her

shoes because she had to tell the Board what she thinks should be done. She said she

has no children and yet feels that money should not be taken from the school districts.

She told the Board that we should take this property even if we can't save the Theater.

She urged acceptance of the gift and suggested that the referendum would be a good

idea to get the input of the residents and then proceed slowly so that decisions as what

exactly should be done could be made more rationally and intelligently. She repeated

that to turn down the property is foolish. Once we loose the property we will have to

look at it for years the way it is.

Doug Christensen commented that the Village has spent a lot of time on this issue and

have some qualified developers who have not yet had the chance to sit down with the

Village and he saide that he thinks that is wrong not to sit down with these developers.

He pleaded with Board not to act impulsively.