Monday, August 18, 2008
7:30 PM
Village of Lombard
Village Hall
Plan Commission
Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson |
Commissioners: Martin Burke, |
Stephen Flint, Ronald Olbrysh, |
Ruth Sweetser, and Richard Nelson |
Staff Liaison: William Heniff |
Meeting Minutes
Plan Commission
Meeting Minutes
August 18, 2008
Call to Order
Chairperson Ryan called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Call of Members
Chairperson Donald F. Ryan, Commissioner Stephen Flint, Commissioner |
Ronald Olbrysh, Commissioner Ruth Sweetser, Commissioner Martin Burke |
and Commissioner Richard Nelson |
Present:
Also present: William Heniff, AICP, Acting Director of Community Development; |
Jennifer Henaghan, AICP, Planner II; Stuart Moynihan, Associate Planner; and George |
Wagner, legal counsel to the Plan Commission. |
Chairperson Ryan called the order of the agenda. |
Mr. Heniff read the Rules of Procedures as written in the Plan Commission By-Laws. |
Public Hearings
PC 08-22: 433 E. St. Charles Road |
Requests a variation to Section 155.404(G) of the Lombard Zoning Ordinance to |
increase the maximum allowable height of a structure from thirty feet (30') to forty-eight |
feet (48') to allow the construction of a waterslide tower in the CR |
Conservation/Recreation Zoning District. (DISTRICT #5) |
Paul Friedrichs, 227 W. Parkside Avenue, Executive Director of the Lombard Park |
District, presented the petition. Mr. Friedrichs stated that the Lombard Park District was |
requesting a variance on a new slide tower at the aquatic facility at Lombard Common. |
He introduced John Dzarnowski of FGM Architects in Oak Brook to give a short |
presentation. |
John Dzarnowski, 1211 W. 22nd Street Oak Brook, showed a diagram of the pool facility |
and a site plan for the proposed water park. He stated that he was here to discuss the |
variance for the maximum height of a structure in a C/R Conservation Recreation |
District. He stated that the waterslide tower would be no greater than forty-eight feet |
(48') tall. Mr. Dzarnowski stated that the Park District had received approval for the |
aquatic facility at a public hearing a few years ago. Tonight's hearing was for the |
waterslide tower. He stated that at the time of the original hearing the petitioners had |
been looking at a tower but no definitive plans were presented at the time. While |
showing a slide, Mr. Dzarnowski indicated the drawings of the tower on the top left and |
bottom left of the slide. He stated that the green and red slides are below thirty feet (30') |
in height. The variance is for the blue "bowl" slide, the platform, and shade structure to |
shade the attendant. |
The bowl slide and the platform are approximately thirty-five feet (35') in height with a |
guardrail ten feet (10') in height. He indicated the previous waterslide tower which |
existed at the water park facility on the bottom right of the slide and mentioned that it |
had already been demolished. The platform was thirty feet (30') high with a four foot (4') |
handrail on top of it. The tower also had a twenty foot (20') light pole for a total height of |
fifty feet (50'). He stated that the proposed tower would be two feet (2') shorter in |
height. The new tower will have a light on top, but it will be located under the canopy. |
Mr. Dzarnowski reviewed the response to standards. He indicated that the tower slide |
height is the minimum required height for a bowl slide. If the variance were not |
approved, the Park District would not be able to build this slide. He stated that the slide |
was unique in Lombard. The construction of the slide would not be for financial gain. |
The request for a variation is based on the height required for proper functionality. He |
stated that the waterslide tower's height would not be detrimental to the public welfare |
and would not be an overbearing presence in the neighborhood. He indicated that the |
waterslide tower would be constructed near the location of the previous tower. He |
stated that the tower would not affect the surrounding properties or be a danger to |
individuals. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for public comment. No one spoke in favor |
or in opposition to the petition. |
Chairperson Ryan then requested the staff report. |
Stuart Moynihan, Associate Planner, presented the staff report. Staff has prepared a |
report and is submitting it to the public record in its entirety. The Park District is |
proposing the construction of a waterslide tower as part of the new Moran Water Park |
facility located within Lombard Common. The maximum height for a structure in the CR |
Conservation/Recreation Zoning District is thirty feet (30'). The proposed tower is |
forty-eight feet (48') in height. Therefore, approval of a variation is required. |
On September 18, 2006, the Plan Commission conducted a public hearing on PC 06-24, |
a conditional use concerning an upgrade and modernization of the existing Moran Water |
Park facility. During this public hearing, staff indicated that improvements to the slides |
were desirable as they had been constructed nineteen years earlier. However, specific |
plans detailing the nature of the new water slides were not considered as part of the |
petition. |
In June of 2008, the Lombard Park District submitted a permit application for the |
construction of the water park. As the exact height of the tower which would support the |
proposed slides had not yet been determined, that portion of the plans was incomplete. |
The Lombard Park District has since submitted elevations and a site plan for the tower |
and slides. These plans indicate that the proposed tower will have a height of forty-eight |
feet (48'). The Lombard Park District plans to apply for a separate permit for the |
construction of the slide tower pending approval of this petition. |
The proposed waterslide tower is expected to act as the entry point for three |
waterslides. In order to accommodate all three slides and to ensure their proper |
functioning, FGM Architects has determined that a tower height of forty-eight feet (48') is |
necessary. This height requirement is due primarily to the "bowl slide" which swirls the |
individual in a circle before dropping them into a pool below. In order to achieve this |
unique effect, the slide requires that individuals enter from a significant height. |
The Moran Water Park facility is a unique use in the Village of Lombard. Further, the |
proposed tower is a unique type of structure which is intended to provide sufficient |
height for the waterslides to allow the proper slopes, angles, and momentum for each |
waterslide's design. |
Staff is recommending approval of the petition subject to the two conditions in the staff |
report. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for questions of the staff report. |
Sonia Hakes, 21 S. Edgewood Avenue, stated that she lives across from the park. She |
asked what the difference in the insurance premium is between a tower height of thirty |
feet (30') and forty-eight feet (48'). She also asked if there were any sheets to be given |
out that have the plan of the pool. |
Paul Friedrichs responded that there would be no change in the cost of the insurance |
policy or additional premium for the slide tower. He asked for her address and stated he |
would send her the plans she had requested. (Village staff provided her with a copy of |
the plans at the meeting). |
Madelyn Kuehl, 422 E. Maple Street, stated that the plans showed the blue slide and the |
other two slides. She asked if individuals could walk up to the two little slides. |
Paul Friedrichs stated that people could walk up close to these two slides. |
Mrs. Kuehl said it was hard to get to the top of the old slides and asked how many steps |
and how wide it was to the top of the slides. |
Paul Friedrichs stated that the first two slides were on a single platform. Mr. Dzarnowski |
stated that he was unsure of the total number of steps. He added that the steps had a |
width of five feet (5'), so someone can walk to the top while another could come back |
down. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for comments among the Commissioners. |
Commissioner Nelson asked how individual would get out of the way of others after |
dropping out of the blue slide. Mr. Dzarnowski stated that the individual would exit the |
water before the next patron can come down. Guards at the top and bottom of the slide |
would have a visual line of sight in order to signal to each other when it was clear. |
Commissioner Olbrysh stated that he had a procedural question for staff. He stated that |
when the Plan Commission gives approval it is usually good for ten to twelve months. |
As it had been twenty-three months since the original approval, he asked what the |
status was. |
William Heniff, Acting Director of Community Development, stated that the Board of |
Trustees had given a one year extension last fall. |
It was moved by Commissioner Sweetser, seconded by Commissioner Burke, that |
this matter be recommended to the Corporate Authorities for approval subject to |
conditions. The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser, Burke and Nelson
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1. The site shall be developed in compliance with elevations and site plan prepared by |
FGM Architects, dated June 18, 2008. |
2. The petitioner shall apply for and receive a building permit for the waterslide tower |
prior to construction. |
PC 08-24: 117 W. St. Charles Road |
Requests approval of a conditional use pursuant to Section 155.416 (C) for an outside |
service area and a variation from the parking requirements (Section 155.602, Table |
6.3), located in the B5 Central Business District. (DISTRICT #1) |
James Madden, Jr. presented the petition. Mr. Madden stated that the restaurant had |
previously obtained a conditional use for an outdoor service area in the rear of the |
building, which they now propose to move to the front of the property where it will be |
more visible. |
Commissioner Nelson asked how many tables would be in the service area. Mr. |
Madden stated that there would be seven tables. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for public comment. |
Matt Helm, 105 W. St. Charles Road, stated that he is Vice President of the Park West |
Homeowners Association. He stated that he is concerned that the conditional use will |
exacerbate current parking disputes between the parking lot owner and the association. |
He is also concerned about the use of a portable fence because an existing fence has |
fallen on cars during high winds. He would support the petition if the outdoor area were |
to be used Friday and Saturday nights only, and if the owner provides the association |
with a written commitment that Park West residents will not be towed from the lot. |
Kevin Kelley, 123 W. St. Charles Road, stated that he wants to make sure there is a |
plan in place for the removal of additional garbage on the site. |
Mr. Madden stated that the fence is now weighed down with concrete block rather than |
with sandbags. With regard to the towing of cars, the restaurant is allowed a certain |
number of spaces in the lot and the condominiums have an easement for parking. The |
outdoor service area will occupy three spaces. The area would operate Thursday |
through Sunday, as the rear area had done. He stated that we would take care of any |
garbage in the lot. |
Chairperson Ryan asked about the issue of a parking lease. Mr. Madden stated that the |
condominiums have a lease for the garage, but not for the parking lot. Mr. Helm stated |
that the condominiums have an irrevocable lease, but there is no documentation as to a |
certain number of spaces. |
Sean Kelley, 105 W. St. Charles Road, asked if the fence would be removed each night |
and put up the following day. Mr. Madden stated that it would, with the fence going up |
around 4:00 p.m. or 5:00 p.m. on Thursdays and Fridays, all day on Saturday, then |
down Saturday night and back up Sunday night. Mr. Kelley asked if there would be |
bands playing outdoors. Mr. Madden stated that there would not be bands, only food. |
Mr. Kelley asked about the transfer of the light control. Mr. Madden stated that the two |
parking lot lights in the island are controlled off the Village's power because the Village |
originally planned to take over the parking lot. Mr. Kelly asked if the lights would be |
transferred to the homeowner's association's power. William Heniff, Acting Director of |
Community Development, stated that if the parking lot is not transferred to the Village, |
the lights should have a private connection. Mr. Kelley asked about a timeline. Mr. |
Heniff stated that staff is currently working on and addressing the issue. Mr. Kelley |
stated that he is all for the beautification of the downtown but doesn't want parking to |
become an issue. He stated concerns regarding noise, especially on Thursday nights. |
Chairperson Ryan stated that the operations will be limited to no later than 9:00 p.m. on |
Thursdays. Mr. Kelley stated that was fine. |
Chairperson Ryan then requested the staff report. |
Jennifer Henaghan, Planner II, presented the staff report, which was submitted to the |
public record in its entirety. The Texan BBQ is seeking conditional use approval for an |
outdoor dining area and food sales tent and a variation from the parking standards that |
requires parking for outdoor dining establishments. The dining area will occupy three |
parking spaces in the northeast corner of the parking lot. |
The Private Engineering Services Division has no comment on the proposed outdoor |
dining plan; however, the parking lot lights should be removed from the Village's |
controller and connected to a new controller that is installed/constructed to Village |
specifications and requirements. Public Works Engineering had concerns regarding the |
amount of parking taken up and how the seating area would be separated from parking |
lot traffic. The Building Department and Fire Prevention Bureau had comments |
regarding vehicle barriers, handicap access/seating, and handicap parking. |
In May, 2003, the petitioner applied for and received conditional use approval for |
outdoor dining associated with The Texan BBQ and a variation from the parking |
standards that requires parking for outdoor dining establishments. The request was |
made so that the Texan could provide outdoor dining on selected weekend nights during |
the summer. The location of the outdoor dining area was to the rear of the restaurant |
site on the abutting property at 10-12 S. Park Avenue. The restaurant no longer uses |
this area for dining purposes. Over the past few years, the petitioner has noted that |
they have used the property at 117 W. St. Charles Road parking lot during the summer |
with seating and food serving purposes. Village Code provides such outdoor activities |
through the special event permit approval process or through the conditional use |
process. As they seek to have the event on a number of occasions, a conditional use is |
sought. |
The Comprehensive Plan denotes this area as Central Business District Mixed Use |
Area. The outdoor dining concept is appropriate to a Central Business District and is |
considered an enhancement to downtown development, provided that it operates in |
compliance with Village Code. The subject property is bounded by |
commercial/condominium uses on all sides. To ensure compatibility with adjacent |
residential uses and in keeping with the time periods established for with other |
downtown events, staff recommends that the hours of operation be limited as proposed |
by the petitioner and as provided through their 2003 zoning approval. Staff also |
suggests a condition that all customers must be leave the outdoor dining area no later |
than thirty minutes after the outdoor dining area is scheduled to close. Furthermore, |
staff recommends that the outdoor dining area be segregated from parking lot traffic by |
a wrought iron-style fence, as was used in the former outdoor dining area behind 10-12 |
S. Park Avenue. (All of these conditions were included in the most recent outdoor dining |
conditional use approval for The Texan BBQ.) |
One letter was submitted in opposition to the petition. This letter, from a resident at |
Parkview Pointe, stated concerns that the requested relief would allow the petitioner to |
avoid snow removal and parking lot resurfacing costs. However, these issues are not |
directly related to the requested relief because the outdoor area would be temporary and |
removable. At the time that the outdoor dining was not operating, the area shall be |
made available for parking purposes. |
The outdoor dining activity will meet all code requirements during its limited hours of |
operation. It is expected to provide a positive effect on downtown revitalization as it |
creates a visual impact of life and vitality. The outdoor dining component is similar to |
other outdoor dining activities such as those at Praga. However, given that the |
petitioner's plan is immediately adjacent to and below residential units, additional |
conditions restricting the hours of operation are warranted. |
Staff supports the requested parking variation as it is only for the four parking spaces |
that would be required for the outdoor dining area (at a ratio of one parking space per |
125 sq. ft. of floor area) and not a variation for the larger Texan BBQ Restaurant. The |
limited hours and temporary nature of the outdoor dining and sales area should not |
generate a substantial amount of additional traffic or parking demand on the downtown |
area above and beyond existing conditions. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for comment among the Commissioners. |
Commissioner Burke stated that discussion of who has what rights in the parking lot is |
not within the purview of the Plan Commission. He then clarified the language in |
condition no. 2 and condition no. 3 to remove an apparent conflict. |
George Wagner stated that the Plan Commission can discuss parking if it is a concern. |
Commissioner Burke stated that there is conflicting information on the existence of a |
lease. Mr. Heniff stated that the lease agreements are a private, civil matter. |
Commission Nelson asked if the former outdoor dining area would be used for parking. |
Mr. Madden stated that the spaces will be available for parking whenever the outdoor |
dining area is not set up. |
Commissioner Sweetser asked if the commissioners wished to require the removal of |
the fence during the day on Friday and Saturday. |
Commissioner Olbrysh asked if the fence could be secured using the hardware from the |
French Market tents. Mr. Madden stated that those locations are in the middle of the |
drive aisle, but new sleeves for the fence could be inserted where necessary. |
Commissioner Burke stated that sandbags and concrete blocks are not a reasonable |
solution. Mr. Madden stated that the concrete blocks are not unattractive. |
The outdoor dining activity shall be limited to Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, |
or federal holidays between April 1 and October 31. |
It was moved by Commissioner Burke, seconded by Commissioner Flint, that this |
matter be Recommended for approval to the Corporate Authorities subject to the |
amended condition(s). The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser, Burke and Nelson
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1. The outdoor dining activity shall be limited to Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, |
Sundays, or federal holidays between April 1 and October 31. |
2. The outdoor dining service shall not be open past 11:00 p.m. on Fridays and |
Saturdays and 9:00 p.m. on Thursdays and Sundays. |
3. That all patrons shall leave the outdoor dining area no later than thirty minutes after |
the time in which the outdoor dining service is scheduled to close. |
4. The petitioner shall erect a removable wrought iron-style fence along the south and |
west sides of the dining area. Said fence shall be in place during any outdoor dining |
periods. |
5. The parking lot lights shall be removed from the Village controller and connected to a |
new controller that is installed and constructed to Village specifications and |
requirements. The disconnection of the lighting shall occur prior to the establishment of |
the outdoor dining activity. |
6. Prior to the establishment of the outdoor dining activity, the petitioner shall provide |
the Building Department with a plan showing vehicle barriers and handicap |
access/seating. |
PC 08-23: 455 Eisenhower Lane |
Requests approval of the following actions on the subject property within the I Limited |
Industrial District: |
1. A conditional use for a trade school; and |
2. A variation from Section 155.602 (C), Table 6.3 reducing the number of requisite |
parking spaces. |
Richard Dunn, consultant for the Illinois Center of Broadcasting, 470 Fawell Boulevard, |
#112, Glen Ellyn; George Voinovich, Vice President and CEO for the Illinois Center for |
Broadcasting, 9000 Sweet Valley Drive, Valley View, Ohio; and Steve Karlson, Property |
Manager with NAI Hiffman, 436 Eisenhower Lane North, Lombard, were in attendance |
to present the petition. Mr. Dunn stated that they are requesting a conditional use and a |
parking variation, and they support the recommendations of staff. He then gave a |
PowerPoint presentation in which he discussed the school's class format and the |
petitioner's responses to standards. He added that they have submitted a building |
permit application to comply with the first recommended condition of approval and they |
have no objection to the second condition. |
Mr. Karlson stated that they had not yet installed the double check detector assembly |
requested by Public Works due to some timing issues with their tenant negotiations, but |
the permit has been submitted and the work will be completed. |
Mr. Voinovich stated that the move to 455 Eisenhower Lane will allow for additional |
students and the advancement of the school's program. |
Commissioner Nelson asked if the school will always have classes in four-hour time |
blocks. Mr. Voinovich stated that they generally have three class sessions with |
overlapping programs, depending on enrollment. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for public comment. No one spoke in favor |
or in opposition to the petition. |
Chairperson Ryan then requested the staff report. |
Jennifer Henaghan, Planner II, presented the staff report, which was submitted to the |
public record in its entirety. Trade Schools are listed as conditional uses within the I |
Limited Industrial District. The Illinois Center for Broadcasting (ICB) wishes to occupy |
approximately 15,000 sq. ft. of the building at 455 Eisenhower Lane. ICB has operated |
in Lombard for more than 20 years and offers an accredited 10-month program to |
approximately 90 students. The new location would allow ICB to significantly expand its |
enrollment and offerings. The expansion on the subject property would include |
classrooms, television studios, editing studios, and administrative offices. As a |
companion to this request, the petitioner is also seeking a variation from the parking |
standards. |
The Utilities Division of the Public Works Department noted that a double check detector |
assembly (DCDA) is required. |
As stated by the petitioner in the Response to Standards, ICB appears and functions |
more like office space than a traditional trade school with the bulk of the space being |
occupied by desks and computer workstations. Although the school anticipates an |
eventual enrollment of up to 170 students, the students will be divided among morning, |
afternoon, and evening classes. Accordingly, the number of students entering, |
occupying, and exiting the property at any one time would not be inconsistent with office |
uses (which are permitted in the I Limited Industrial District). Staff supports the |
requested conditional use as ICB will be a relatively low-impact user of the property that |
is compatible with the other tenant on the property. |
The Zoning Ordinance requires trade schools to provide off-street parking at a ratio of |
two spaces per three employees plus one space per maximum number of students. |
The school currently has 10 employees and 90 students, and forecasts growth at the |
new location up to 18 employees and 170 students. This means that they would have |
an immediate requirement of 97 spaces and an eventual requirement of 182 parking |
spaces. However, students are divided into three daily sessions, so the functional need |
for parking will be closer to 69 spaces. The submitted plans show a total of 109 on-site |
parking spaces on the property as a whole. Based on its square footage the OfficeMax |
office space is required to have 38 spaces, leaving 71 spaces for ICB. Since the |
number of available spaces matches the planned number of parking spaces needed by |
the school at any one time, staff can support the requested parking variation. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for comment among the Commissioners. |
The Commissioners had no comments. |
It was moved by Commissioner Olbrysh, seconded by Commissioner Sweetser, |
that this matter be recommended to the Corporate Authorities for approval |
subject to conditions. The motion carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser, Burke and Nelson
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1. Prior to the issuance of any Zoning Certificate/Certificate of Occupancy, a double |
check detector assembly shall be installed and completed test certifications shall be |
sent to the Village for review and approval. |
2. The parking relief set forth within this petition shall provide for a reduction in the |
requisite parking spaces from 97 to 71 and shall be exclusively for the proposed trade |
school use. Should the trade school operator increase the enrollment of the school |
above 170 students, the operator shall provide for the additional requisite parking or |
seek additional an additional parking variation. |
Business Meeting
The business meeting convened at 8:38 p.m.
Approval of Minutes
William Heniff, Acting Director of Community Development, noted that on page 10, 5th |
paragraph, the last sentence should read: |
"William Heniff, Senior Planner, responded that there are two sets of rules - if it's |
street facing, the 42% limitation would apply, subject to the overall 500 square foot |
limitation." |
Also, under the Approval of Minutes section, 1st paragraph, 3rd sentence change the |
word "amended" to "suggested amending" so the sentence reads: |
"Mr. Wagner indicated that Mr. Malina suggested amending the language...." |
On a motion by Olbrysh, seconded by Nelson, the minutes of the July 21, 2008 were |
unanimously approved by the members present with the aforementioned corrections. |
Public Participation
There was no public participation.
DuPage County Hearings
There were no DuPage County hearings.
Chairperson's Report
The Chairperson deferred to the Acting Director of Community Development.
Planner's Report
Mr. Heniff noted that staff has distributed an updated development team sheet for the |
Commissioners' consideration. |
Unfinished Business
There was no unfinished business.
New Business
There was no new business.
Subdivision Reports
SUB 08-03: 1501 S. Main Street |
Requests that the Village approve a Major Plat of Subdivision. (DISTRICT #3) |
Noting that the petition was being presented by the Village, Chairperson Ryan requested |
the staff report. |
William Heniff, Acting Community Development Director, referenced the staff report. A |
plat of subdivision is being brought forward at this time to facilitate the proposed |
construction associated with PC 04-31. Since the subject property is greater than an |
acre in size, it is considered a major plat of subdivision and must be reviewed and |
approved by the Plan Commission and Board of Trustees. |
The proposed subdivision is intended to create a separate lot of record for the subject |
property. This subdivision meets all of the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance and |
Subdivision and Development Ordinance. The proposed lot will exceed the minimum lot |
width and area requirements of the underlying zoning district. As the plat shows, the |
site will now provide a new Wetland Conservation Easement and Stormwater Detention |
Easement adjacent to 16th Street. A fifteen (15) foot Public Utility and Drainage |
Easement will be provided along Main Street and a thirty (30) foot Watermain Easement |
is also to be provided adjacent to 16th Street. Staff recommends that the plat be |
approved. |
Chairperson Ryan then opened the meeting for public comment. There was no one |
present to speak in favor or against this petition. |
Chairperson Ryan opened the meeting for discussion and questions by the Plan |
Commission. The Commissioners did not have any comments or questions. |
It was moved by Commissioner Flint, seconded by Commissioner Burke, that this |
matter be recommended to the Corporate Authorities for approval. The motion |
carried by the following vote: |
Aye:
Flint, Olbrysh, Sweetser, Burke and Nelson
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Site Plan Approvals
There were no site plan approvals.
Workshops
There were no workshops.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 8:43 p.m. |
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Donald F. Ryan, Chairperson |
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William Heniff, AICP, Acting Director of Community Development |